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re: Amazon cutting 30,000 white collar jobs. UPS cutting 48,000 jobs.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 5:06 pm to 94LSU
Posted on 10/28/25 at 5:06 pm to 94LSU
Amazon has projected $100bb in spend this year on AI, mostly in their AWS services.
Their layoffs also slashed a bunch of HR, engineers, and departments in areas where they plan to sunset or minumize services. It also includes many that failed to comply with the return to office mandate. Lastly, and probably most significantly, this is reorganization after the bloated covid years.
Also, the number for Amazon is 14,000 last I heard.
Their layoffs also slashed a bunch of HR, engineers, and departments in areas where they plan to sunset or minumize services. It also includes many that failed to comply with the return to office mandate. Lastly, and probably most significantly, this is reorganization after the bloated covid years.
Also, the number for Amazon is 14,000 last I heard.
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Posted on 10/28/25 at 5:35 pm to LSURussian
You just cant get enough of me
Where did i say that?
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So you actually believe if interest rates were lower Amazon would have kept 30,000 redundant employees??
Where did i say that?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:02 pm to SDVTiger
You implied we needed rate cuts in the middle of this discussion. You didn't say why so he utilized context. Something that is definitely over your head.
Perhaps you can elaborate on why you think we need rate cuts so people don't need to guess what is going on in that little brain.
Perhaps you can elaborate on why you think we need rate cuts so people don't need to guess what is going on in that little brain.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:07 pm to el Gaucho
They have robot welders now,
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:08 pm to Bamanjo
In one sentence you explained exactly what is going on. Thank you. I hope a lot of people read your sentence and wake the hell up about what is currently going on in our country.
Millionaires and billionaires DO NOT care about our country or regular Americans. They care about themselves and their personal wealth and power. I'm not sure why so many Americans fell for the lie that rich people care about them.
Millionaires and billionaires DO NOT care about our country or regular Americans. They care about themselves and their personal wealth and power. I'm not sure why so many Americans fell for the lie that rich people care about them.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:08 pm to Dot Com
i believe UPS is getting rid of people by offering early retirement, buyouts, and they bought some delivery company, and will use some of their cheaper labor. heard this
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:10 pm to Dot Com
There cutting those jobs because of AI, if you’re not a skilled laborer then your job is on the way out
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:13 pm to Dawgs9
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They have robot welders now,
Gaucho welds underwater, baw. Not in no freshwater neither.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:17 pm to PaperTiger
This isn’t entirely true. My uncle is a 27 year UPS driver. The company agreed to create 20,000 new jobs when they signed the 5 year labor contract in 2023, but that’s for part and full time union jobs.
Management isn’t considered hourly, so they don’t have union protection, so they’re trimming a lot of the dead weight on that side of things. In fact, they’re offering buyouts to management between 11/15-01/15/26 before the cuts. This is PR by the company to scare them into accepting it, even though it’s not much.
BTW, it’s more unsustainable that the current CEO Carol Tome, that has single-handedly driven the service and quality of their delivery service down, all the while giving herself a massive raise.
Management isn’t considered hourly, so they don’t have union protection, so they’re trimming a lot of the dead weight on that side of things. In fact, they’re offering buyouts to management between 11/15-01/15/26 before the cuts. This is PR by the company to scare them into accepting it, even though it’s not much.
BTW, it’s more unsustainable that the current CEO Carol Tome, that has single-handedly driven the service and quality of their delivery service down, all the while giving herself a massive raise.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:22 pm to RT1941
You have no idea what that job entails. They send those guys out with 180-200 stops a day, a lot of furniture up flights of stairs, excessive heat to the point of exhaustion and some days you work 14 hours.
Really hard on family life because Monday-Friday you have no idea what time you’re getting done. A lot of the older guys hobble out with herniated discs and bad knees when they retire.
I have a ton of friends and a family member employed there and it’s not an easy gig.
Really hard on family life because Monday-Friday you have no idea what time you’re getting done. A lot of the older guys hobble out with herniated discs and bad knees when they retire.
I have a ton of friends and a family member employed there and it’s not an easy gig.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:30 pm to SDVTiger
quote:Where did I say that's what you said?
Where did i say that?
I asked you a question...
quote:You still haven't answered my question.
So you actually believe if interest rates were lower Amazon would have kept 30,000 redundant employees??
So, let me rephrase my question and make it simpler for you:
In a thread titled, "Amazon cutting 30,000 white collar jobs" and you replying in the thread by saying, "Yeah we totally dont (sic) need rate cuts," are you saying rate cuts would have prevented Amazon from having to lay off 30,000 employees?
If that's not what you are saying, then what ARE you saying?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:33 pm to el Gaucho
Man you’ve been hitting the fumes a little too hard.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:28 pm to uziyourillusion
I see this is poor decision making at the direction of stakeholders for public orgs. And even the private sector. Good chance the people pulling the strings are somehow tied to Davos
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:38 pm to Powerman
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You implied we needed rate cuts in the middle of this discussion
We have needed rate cuts for a long time now. We are finally getting them
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Perhaps you can elaborate on why you think we need rate cuts so people don't need to guess what is going on in that little brain.
Im gonna do the LSURussian. Tell me why you dont think we need rate cuts?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:41 pm to Bamanjo
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The billionaires figured out they don’t need human workers anymore, so they’ll buy the political class to protect themselves while the working class starves.
Seeing this in real time right now.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 12:13 am to SDVTiger
quote:Inflation is at 3% year-over-yearr which is 50% higher than the Fed’s 2% maximum target rate, unemployment is well under 5%, GDP growth is almost 3%, job growrh is doing well and there is a pretty obvious asset price bubble which includes precious metals, housing and stocks caused by low interest rates for over a decade.
Tell me why you dont think we need rate cuts?
Now give your usual reply to those statistical facts by saying “Nuh-uh.”
Now answer my question.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 1:09 am to Dot Com
Amazon is only laying off 14 K as of now.
Amazon employs approximately 1.56 million people globally, with about 350,000 of those in corporate roles (GLOBALLY).
Amazon will lay off 2,303 corporate employees in Washington state, primarily in its Seattle and Bellevue offices, according to a filing with the state Employment Security Department that provides the first geographic breakdown of the company’s 14,000 global job cuts.
In a memo from HR chief Beth Galetti, the company signaled that further cutbacks will continue into 2026. Reuters reported Monday that the number of layoffs could ultimately total as many as 30,000 people, which is still possible as the layoffs continue into next year.
Source : GeekWire
Cutting 30,000 from the total work force it is less that 2% of the work force of Amazon.
United Parcel Service has slashed 48,000 jobs this year UPS said 34,000 of the cuts hit drivers and warehouse operations, while 14,000 targeted management.
UPS employs half a million people. 48K is a 10% reduction in force. Not sure if you remember back to 2023 when UPS workers threatened to strike which was avoided due to a collective bargaining agreement that was very generous to the IBOT union members. Well those chickens have come home to roost. Party like it's 2023 until your company has to compete in the real world.
Amazon employs approximately 1.56 million people globally, with about 350,000 of those in corporate roles (GLOBALLY).
Amazon will lay off 2,303 corporate employees in Washington state, primarily in its Seattle and Bellevue offices, according to a filing with the state Employment Security Department that provides the first geographic breakdown of the company’s 14,000 global job cuts.
In a memo from HR chief Beth Galetti, the company signaled that further cutbacks will continue into 2026. Reuters reported Monday that the number of layoffs could ultimately total as many as 30,000 people, which is still possible as the layoffs continue into next year.
Source : GeekWire
Cutting 30,000 from the total work force it is less that 2% of the work force of Amazon.
United Parcel Service has slashed 48,000 jobs this year UPS said 34,000 of the cuts hit drivers and warehouse operations, while 14,000 targeted management.
UPS employs half a million people. 48K is a 10% reduction in force. Not sure if you remember back to 2023 when UPS workers threatened to strike which was avoided due to a collective bargaining agreement that was very generous to the IBOT union members. Well those chickens have come home to roost. Party like it's 2023 until your company has to compete in the real world.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:57 am to GRTiger
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I'd have to know exactly what was said by the company to know if they were being sincere or duplicitous.
AI will create a handful of jobs up front while destroying entire swaths of our job market.
It’s been doing so for a couple years and in conjunction with H1B is creating one of the worst job markets in recent American history regardless of the job numbers which have been gamed for years to conflate low paying warehouse jobs with high paying white collar work.
The American middle and upper middle class is getting attacked on both the employment and spend side and the only path at the moment is through onshoring of factories via the tariffs and reductions in H1B before the bottom drops out as consumer debt can’t keep the walls from crashing down.
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