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Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:21 pm to
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They don’t make a good case for Palestine with their history lesson.


Do you think that they're making a case for "Palestine"?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:26 pm to
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I'm sorry, but we are going to need you to clarify who you think "God's chosen people®" are.

All people are God's people unless you subscribe to some weirdo Jewish supremacy cult
Posted by Cajun75
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:38 pm to
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They cling to their Scofield Bible


You do realize that Scofield like other bible scholars only put his study notes on the bottom of the pages in a "Scofield" bible? He didn't write or change the actual King James translation of scripture which had been around since the 1600's, LOL.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:41 pm to
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Do you think that they're making a case for "Palestine"?

No, they’re more making a case that the U.S. invaded Iraq, which in turn eventually led to the rise of ISIS, which in turn led to terrible atrocities by ISIS upon Arab Christians and significant Christian sites. Thus, if you bend that straight line hard enough into a circle, you’ve got yourself the transitive argument and conclusion that America itself is directly at war with Arab Christians.

Oh and then, as it’s interpreted here amongst us, it immediately becomes the usual thrashing of Israel, the argument in this particular respect being that any U.S. support of Israel, for most any purpose, leads to whatever stuff in the middle of the equation, which in turn ultimately leads to the conclusion that America is at war with Arab Christians.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:37 pm to
Hmm, that’s certainly one way of looking at it.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:38 pm to
There are many. I shouldn’t gloss over that relevant point.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:53 pm to
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You do realize that Scofield like other bible scholars only put his study notes on the bottom of the pages in a "Scofield" bible? He didn't write or change the actual King James translation of scripture which had been around since the 1600's, LOL.
Bless your little heart.

Yeah boomer, that's the only thing wrong with the Scofield Bible.

To have a church history that only dates back to the 19th century, you dispensationalists should have an absolute lock on your drop in the bucket church history. That knowledge quite literally sets the precedence of your theological foundation, framework, and worldview (whichever of the tens of thousands that may be).

Are you one of (the majority) of dispensationalists who's fine with eastern Christians being slaughtered in Palestine because you worship Israel as much as you do The Christ? Do you care more about the Zionist state of Israel than Christ's people, i.e., the NEW, actual Israel? (Both of which, unironically, are core tenets of the dispensationalism and Scofield Bible heresies, hence the invention and cult-like adherence to the term, "Judeo-Christian" "values.")

It's quite pitiful how uniformed you are, actually. It's quite shocking, albeit not surprising, how much vitriolic hate American protestants have for Orthodox and eastern Catholic Christians in order to cling to your heretical obsession with modern day Zionist Israel. This board is crawling with it. The last couple of years have been jaw-droppingly eye opening on how deep that cult-like, lifelong ingrained hate for fellow Christians is in order to protect a heretical lie. I am a part of the new Israel. YOU are a part of the new Israel. Not Netanyahu and Mossad.

As an aside: We know you type of folk cling and venerate King James like he wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls, and speaking against his translation is akin to blasphemy, and not mincing our words correctly about him might very well get us sent to hell in a hurry. (On the same level as speaking ill of the state of Israel, or like how you all love to remind us Orthodox and Catholics that we're going to hell for "worshipping idols," and that our saints and church fathers who apprenticed under the apostles are already there for teaching it for 1500 years until God brought His people out of wandering in the wilderness when He sent Saint Martin Luther to bring all of us the actual church that Christ messed up on the first time.) But, you do know that King James was a flaming homosexual? That list of foundational theological fathers who've set your rigid worldview gets shorter and shorter.

Oh ok, just checking.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48991 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:09 pm to
Correct.

If you support Palestinian Christians on this forum, you draw the ire of world-class-stupid Scofield fake "Christians"

literal world-class-stupid


Post Galatians 3:29 in regard to the seed of Abraham, and they lose their minds
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48991 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:12 pm to
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I'm all about supporting GOD's people



God's people are those who accept Jesus Christ.

It has zero to do with bloodlines



But even if it DID, guess who on this entire earth has Jewish blood? Everyone.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48991 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:15 pm to
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I'm sorry, but we are going to need you to clarify who you think "God's chosen people®" are.




it's those who accept Jesus Christ

is that hard for you?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48991 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:26 pm to
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dgnx6




you try to speak in Chrisian language, but then you support the mass murder of women and children and elderly in Gaza


then FOX assures you it's okay, and you are happy about that even though you know deep down that FOX is saying the same fricking thing CNN and MSNBC is saying
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55060 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:33 pm to
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Tucker Carlson’s recent castration of Texas senator Ted Cruz produced several notable moments, one of which came when Cruz asserted that the Bible commands Christians to support Israel—by which he meant the political entity established in 1948 as the State of Israel.



I've read the Bible numerous times and generally read some OT and NT every day. Most Christians who are on the "defend and support today's nation of Israel' bandwagon conveniently forget or out of ignorance don't know that today's nation of Israel is not the nation of Israel of the OT.

I believe the New Jerusalem spoken about in Revelation is where the remnant of the 12 Tribes will reside when Christ returns. Today there are estimates of 300k-500k messianic Jews worldwide, I think this is the remnant that will be brought into the New Jerusalem.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 8:40 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48991 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:41 pm to
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Bass Tiger




Today's Israel are those who accept Jesus Christ.


Period.


Messianic Jews are not Christians.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55060 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:56 pm to
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Today's Israel are those who accept Jesus Christ.


Period.


Messianic Jews are not Christians


I don't believe I labeled messianic Jews as Christians, although I have heard some messianic Jews claim they were Christian in their religious beliefs. Christians are the Gentiles that God welcomed and grafted into the Kingdom for their acceptance of Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.

In the NT Paul frequently identified himself as a Jew, a one time Pharisee but now a follower of Christ. Paul never denied his Jewish ancestry. As Christians we have to remember our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is a Jew with ancestral ties going back to King David.

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Messianic Jews are individuals who identify as Jewish and believe that Jesus (Yeshua in Hebrew) is the Messiah and the Son of God. They combine Jewish traditions and practices with their belief in Jesus as the central figure of their faith. Messianic Judaism is often seen as a bridge between Judaism and Christianity, with some considering it a form of Christianity and others viewing it as a distinct expression of Judaism
Posted by 5WFSHR
Montgomery, AL
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:59 pm to
Personal relationship with Jesus comes before any allegiance to state.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48991 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:02 pm to
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Christians are the Gentiles that God welcomed and grafted into the Kingdom




There is no Jew or Gentile


Period. You said you've read the Bible. But you haven't.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48991 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:04 pm to
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I don't believe I labeled messianic Jews as Christians





People who enter into the New Jerusalem will be only Christians


Period.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55060 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:09 pm to
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Personal relationship with Jesus comes before any allegiance to state.


I've actually made a case for not blindly supporting the current nation of Israel.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55060 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:12 pm to
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Christians are the Gentiles that God welcomed and grafted into the Kingdom




There is no Jew or Gentile


Period. You said you've read the Bible. But you haven't.


I don't mean to offend you but your knowledge of OT and NT scripture is lacking.

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A Christian can be a Gentile, and in fact, many Christians are. In the context of Christianity, a Gentile is simply a person who is not Jewish. The New Testament often refers to non-Jewish believers in Jesus as Gentiles. While the term "Gentile" can be used more broadly to refer to any non-Jewish person, in the context of Christianity, it specifically denotes non-Jewish believers in Jesus
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55060 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:14 pm to
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I don't believe I labeled messianic Jews as Christians





People who enter into the New Jerusalem will be only Christians


Period.



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Yes, Jewish people who accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah will be included in the New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem is a place for all believers, both Jew and Gentile, who have faith in Jesus.
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