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re: Arbery made multiple visits, at night, to the house under construction (UPDATED)
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:59 pm to moneyg
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:59 pm to moneyg
quote:You're sick.
I'm waiting to see if it is ever proven that Arbery was a thief. IF that's the case, I'm not going to be outraged by a thief that gets caught, decides to attack those that catch him, ending in him getting shot and killed.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:01 pm to MightyYat
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Uhhhh, you can't break into a structure with no windows and no doors. It's just trespassing.
The law you quote agrees with him. You may want to read it again.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:01 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
I'm waiting to see if it is ever proven that Arbery was a thief. IF that's the case, I'm not going to be outraged by a thief that gets caught, decides to attack those that catch him, ending in him getting shot and killed.
You're sick.
It is you who is sick
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:08 pm to moneyg
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The law you quote agrees with him. You may want to read it again.
It literally say what Arbery did was illegal trespass which is what most have been saying. He just walked into an open house with no windows or doors. There was no forcible entry.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:17 pm to kingbob
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it was his only option.
No, he could have sprinted right instead of in front of the truck and toward the shooter.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:20 pm to MightyYat
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So, he did not "break-in" to anything.
The law is for burglary of an uninhabited dwelling. Burglary is the entering of an inhabited or uninhabited dwelling with the intent to commit a theft or a felony.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:20 pm to the808bass
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Correct. They can be prosecuted to the misdemeanor extent of the criminal trespass law.
Depending on what they are caught stealing.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:23 pm to Aristo
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The law is for burglary of an uninhabited dwelling. Burglary is the entering of an inhabited or uninhabited dwelling with the intent to commit a theft or a felony.
Posted this in an earlier thread, so the first half of bullet point #2 doesn't apply to your post, but the rest does:
quote:
1. The construction is not considered a dwelling under Georgia law. To be considered a dwelling it must be "designed or intended for occupancy for residential use." You'd have a hard time convincing a jury that the construction site is intended for occupancy in its current state.
2. There was no forced entry or further crime according to the surveillance video. Ahmaud didn't commit theft, meaning the criteria for burglary was not met:
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A person commits the offense of burglary in the first degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another
3. The McMichaels, according to their own statement to police, did not witness the crime. They told police they thought he may have been a burglary suspect so they followed him. Not a legal citizen's arrest since they didn't witness a crime, and it wasn't a felony to begin with.
ETA: Even if he were to have stolen something, the McMichaels admitted to police that they followed him because they thought he might've been a burglary suspect, not because they were in the presence of a felony. Just like an unreasonable search and seizure, you can't illegally start then find something and say your actions were validated after the fact.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:24 pm to Aristo
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No, he could have sprinted right instead of in front of the truck and toward the shooter.
Or the shooter could've just stayed his arse in his truck instead of trying to confront a guy they didn't see commit a crime?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:26 pm to MightyYat
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Or the shooter could've just stayed his arse in his truck instead of trying to confront a guy they didn't see commit a crime?
Agree, but since he didn't Arbery had other options at that point.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:28 pm to Aristo
quote:He had already crossed this terrain at least twice. The incident begins at the intersection of Jones Road and Satilla Drive (where the house is under construction - check Google Earth View and read the Glynn County Police Department Incident Report).
No, he could have sprinted right instead of in front of the truck and toward the shooter.
Ahmaud heads down Satilla Drive towards Burford Road, then back up Satilla Drive towards Jones Road, then again down Satilla Drive towards Burford Road when the confrontation happened at the intersection of Satilla Drive and Holmes Road.
At some point enough is enough.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:28 pm to lsu13lsu
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Depending on what they are caught stealing.
So now you’re just making up shite. Cool.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:35 pm to Wolfhound45
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This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 1:45 am
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:37 pm to moneyg
You're sick if you think an OK outcome for petty theft is death.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:36 pm to bigblake
quote:When we look at security camera footage and the cell phone records of the time in question and the testimony of the videographer, I have a feeling it is not going to look good for the McMichaels.
In any case that doesn't exonerate them.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:15 am to ShortyRob
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quote:If I am speeding and someone shoots me I shouldn't be surprised? Are you stupid?
No, but the poster I was responding to may well be...they suggested that if you were breaking the law that you should not be surprised if someone breaks the law to stop you. That is pretty close to a clinical definition of stupid....
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:18 am to MightyYat
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Or the shooter could've just stayed his arse in his truck instead of trying to confront a guy they didn't see commit a crime?
That wasn't the issue, the issue was that he had a shotgun in his hand and moved to cut off the jogger.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:43 am to ItNeverRains
These guys are no hero's but they also are not murderers under Georgia law if I understand what happened. Idiots but not murderer's. What can they be charged with that will stick? I'm sure the acting DA is trying to figure that out.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:06 pm to RollTide1987
Look man stop this shite already. He was a good ole boy just jogging through people homes and got gunned down by some racist whites minding his own business.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:31 pm to RollTide1987
I'll say it again: This case notwithstanding (we don't know all the info and may never), it's always a good day when a thief dies.
If that makes me a piece of zhit, I'm comfortable with that.
If that makes me a piece of zhit, I'm comfortable with that.
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