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re: Ben Shapiro :Difficult to imagine a more incompetent policy rollout
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:19 pm to tigerinDC09
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:19 pm to tigerinDC09
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Send out idiots like Corey Lewandowski to look hateful;
Hard to take him seriously when all this tweet was intended to do was knock on Lewandowski. Bens still butthurt
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:19 pm to SnukaD
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They won't acknowledge this point either. They'd rather put blame on Trump, then the parents of these children who know they are putting them at risk. And the parents can fix this themselves if they wanted to! It's disgusting and not surprising to say the least.
So you are really saying that parents fleeing gang and/or domestic violence are putting their kids at risk by leaving and Legally seeking asylum at legal US points of entry?
You think those who aren't trying to sneak across the border, and are waiting in line at CBP asylum stations should have their kids separated from them?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:21 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:I agree it has been a crappy rollout.
that's why i'm saying I largely agree with him. I'm sure we'll disagree on the merits, but we agree that this rollout was a disaster. Just as we would agree that the original Obamacare rollout was a disaster.
Hopefully congress will pass a law by end of the week so this can be put behind us.
I'd rather be hearing about russia stuff than these non-stop threads
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:22 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:The ones going to legal entry points are not being separated
Legally seeking asylum at legal US points of entry?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:22 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:
So you are really saying that parents fleeing gang and/or domestic violence are putting their kids at risk by leaving and Legally seeking asylum at legal US points of entry?
Is traveling cross country through Mexico with a minor NOT dangerous?
Of course they are endangering their kids. 
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:25 pm to ic3cait
Indeed. People like Shapiro and all the Israeli dual citizens in congress can all go to Israel when the shite hits the fan.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:26 pm to Ace Midnight
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The unaccompanied ones? Or the ones who aren't being imprisoned with their parents? Just trying to figure out which way the winds are blowing. Are you for imprisoning the kids with the parents?
If I had to choose between having parents separated from their kids and potentially having them lost in the system.... yes the lesser of the two evils would be for the entire family to be imprisoned together.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Dork will ignore.
The ones going to legal entry points are not being separated
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I'd rather be hearing about russia stuff than these non-stop threads
See, we're just all full of agreement in here today
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:28 pm to tigerinDC09
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yeah and the permanent psychological damage to kids, so there's that too.
Permanent psychological damage from being separated for a short period of time? That's overdramatic, but it is the liberal calling card.
These kids can grow up in violent, impoverished shitholes and travel thousands of miles with little food or protection, but the short, temporary separation from their parents is going to break them? Just admit you're engaging in histrionics to push a political agenda. No one cared when this was happening under Obama.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The ones going to legal entry points are not being separated
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On Nov. 1, 2017, Ms. L. and her 7-year-old daughter, S.S., arrived at a United States port of entry near San Diego and presented themselves to border agents. Ms. L. had fled with her child from their home in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where Ms. L. left in fear for her life. Now, the pair was finally in the United States, seeking asylum in a country where they thought they would be safe.
Approximately four days later, Ms. L.’s young daughter was taken from her without any explanation or justification. When the officers separated them, Ms. L. could hear her daughter in the next room screaming that she did not want to be taken away from her mother. No one explained why her daughter was being taken away, where she was being taken, or when she would see her child again. More than 3 1/2 months later, Ms. L. remains at a detention center in the San Diego area, while her daughter is detained in Chicago, halfway across the country, without her mother or anyone else she knows.
Today the ACLU filed suit on behalf of Ms. L. and her daughter S.S. to secure their immediate release, or at least reunite them in a family detention center. Our suit argues that the separation of Ms. L. and her daughter is in blatant violation of the due process protections of the Fifth Amendment since the two were separated without justification or even a hearing.
In the time that they have been separated, Ms. L. has only been able to speak to her child a handful of times — always by phone, not video. In those calls, the young girl cries. She’s scared because she doesn’t know what will happen to her and her mother. Ms. L. tries to stay strong for her daughter, but, in reality, the stress and uncertainty of the situation have taken a huge toll on her as well. She struggles to eat and sleep, and she suffers from depression.
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This is just one example.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:33 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:Meh.
This is just one example.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:37 pm to tigerinDC09
Didn't know who he was until a week ago
Guy is a Goober
Guy is a Goober
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:37 pm to tigerinDC09
Been has been a bit of a cucky stick in th mud lately but he's right here. The administration has been all over the place with their messaging on this mess and it's created even more chaos for the hysterical left to feast on.
You've got Sessions quoting the bible to justify it and saying that the policy is intended to be a deterrent. Neilson says it's not intended to be a deterrent and various other positions coming out of the administration. They failed to get behind a united message to put out publicly
You've got Sessions quoting the bible to justify it and saying that the policy is intended to be a deterrent. Neilson says it's not intended to be a deterrent and various other positions coming out of the administration. They failed to get behind a united message to put out publicly
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:37 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Permanent psychological damage from being separated for a short period of time? That's overdramatic, but it is the liberal calling card. These kids can grow up in violent, impoverished shitholes and travel thousands of miles with little food or protection, but the short, temporary separation from their parents is going to break them? Just admit you're engaging in histrionics to push a political agenda. No one cared when this was happening under Obama.
Again toddlers weren't separated from their families during the Obama admin. It just didn't happen.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:38 pm to tigerinDC09
Get in and shut up.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:40 pm to tigerinDC09
Matthew Nussbaum
? @MatthewNussbaum
ACLU not big on Trump's proposed fix for child separations: "This executive order would replace one crisis for another. Children don’t belong in jail at all, even with their parents, under any set of circumstances."
12:57 PM - Jun 20, 2018
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:41 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Permanent psychological damage from being separated for a short period of time? That's overdramatic, but it is the liberal calling card.
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WASHINGTON, D.C. — The American Psychiatric Association issued the following statement from President Altha Stewart, M.D.:
"As physician experts in mental health, the American Psychiatric Association opposes any policy that separates children from their parents at the United States border. Children depend on their parents for safety and support. Any forced separation is highly stressful for children and can cause lifelong trauma, as well as an increased risk of other mental illnesses, such as depression, anxiety, and posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD). The evidence is clear that this level of trauma also results in serious medical and health consequences for these children and their caregivers.
These "overdramatic" DOCTORS disagree.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:43 pm to tigerinDC09
frick that little dweeb Shapiro, fricking clown.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:45 pm to GumboPot
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You and Ben don't know what you agree on.
As smart as Ben appears that was a very ignorant tweet.
Not it wasn't , this is yet ANOTHER case where this Administration has shot itself in the foot.
Riddle me this, why is Trump out saying "zero tolerance isn't meant to deter people from coming here illegally" at the same time that the Director of Homeland Security is out saying EXACTLY the opposite? Much as I HATED Obama, did you EVER see gaffes like that from his Administration? That's just giving the jerkoffs a win.
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