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re: Bigger picture- election audits
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:33 am to davyjones
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:33 am to davyjones
The Dems have no conscience and so pressure or being discreet isn't going to stop them. They control most of not all aspects of this nation. They will defend and deflect into oblivion.
Once fraud has occurred and it is allowed then they will keep doing as it is a drug. The only way they have an implosion is if arrests are made and since the DOJ will side with them, they will do what they want.
Once fraud has occurred and it is allowed then they will keep doing as it is a drug. The only way they have an implosion is if arrests are made and since the DOJ will side with them, they will do what they want.
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:47 am to dchog
I'm certainly not suggesting that the odds are extremely great for a favorable return here, but these efforts (such as audits) must be made in good faith nonetheless. Yeah no?
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 7:48 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:47 am to MorgusTheMagnificent
At the end of the day majority of people don't think Trump will be reinstated. Especially since there is no precedent for it. Anyone who accuses anyone of it is being a troll.
Want/expectation - voting security, truth, and building confidence in this past election and future ones.
Nice feasible mini-boom - a few adjustments in lower ticket races like in congress. This would show that something with teeth came out of it all.
Feasible booms - it all leads to a major MAGA shift in Congress in '22 and solid Trump/Desantis win in '24
Possible super out there, but not realistic due to lack of precedent - Trump gets put in office.
This last one would mean that evidence is soooooo bad and major that the left wing media can't hide it and Biden/Harris are forced to resign. Is it possible?? ...sure... realistic?...no. Just no laws to point to it, but not saying it can't be found/figured out (like the way dems get creative with words), just not something to hang our hat on.... especially in a few yrs.
Want/expectation - voting security, truth, and building confidence in this past election and future ones.
Nice feasible mini-boom - a few adjustments in lower ticket races like in congress. This would show that something with teeth came out of it all.
Feasible booms - it all leads to a major MAGA shift in Congress in '22 and solid Trump/Desantis win in '24
Possible super out there, but not realistic due to lack of precedent - Trump gets put in office.
This last one would mean that evidence is soooooo bad and major that the left wing media can't hide it and Biden/Harris are forced to resign. Is it possible?? ...sure... realistic?...no. Just no laws to point to it, but not saying it can't be found/figured out (like the way dems get creative with words), just not something to hang our hat on.... especially in a few yrs.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:01 am to davyjones
Yes. Try and prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Dems won with massive fraud.
What to do from now on if true? We would be dealing with criminals that took the nation hostage. This is treason.
Biden isn't going to leave no matter if he was being removed from office. The media will just defend those actions and proclaim that it was necessary for the good of that nation.
What to do from now on if true? We would be dealing with criminals that took the nation hostage. This is treason.
Biden isn't going to leave no matter if he was being removed from office. The media will just defend those actions and proclaim that it was necessary for the good of that nation.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:03 am to scurvydawg
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Where this would really come into play is with the senator elections. If the states decert the dem senators that were fraudulently elected and then seat republican senators, that shifts the balance of power in the senate back to 100% republican control ensuring gridlock for any legislation. Then, if Biden tries the EO path, then the republicans can tie those up in the courts the same way they did to Trump.
The least will will see as the arrogantly massive fraud is exposed repeatedly and at many levels is cleaning up the electoral process so we can have real elections again. Along the way, perhaps some of the fraudulently elected will be hounded out of office.
There will also be massive blowback on the dems by our good citizens for having undermined all faith in the electoral process.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:11 am to TOSOV
I dislike the GOPe as much as anyone but the problem isn’t there. It’s the conservative voters. We don’t do crap if the will of the constituency isn’t held by the elect. We just use the party line of well we all have jobs.
Well there have been multiple things posted on here about becoming committeemen, about challenging and running for school boards, about finding out what to do to become an activist in the Conservative party yet I bet the keyboard warriors here waiting on the war to come to them haven’t done shite. Haven’t called a Senator or a state legislator. Haven’t thought twice about what they can really do. Not belittling the 2A but not a damn one will do shite. Just like Europe will be Muslim in 50 years because of out breeding of non Muslims. Marxism will take over here because muh I gotta job. I voted I did my part.
I’m not saying storm DC or eliminating the other side. Out work them because they are definitely out working us. If you ain’t doing shite shut your coward mouths and sit in the corner like the bitch you are. That’s my feelings at this point.
Posting on a message board or putting a meme on Twitter ain’t getting it done.
Well there have been multiple things posted on here about becoming committeemen, about challenging and running for school boards, about finding out what to do to become an activist in the Conservative party yet I bet the keyboard warriors here waiting on the war to come to them haven’t done shite. Haven’t called a Senator or a state legislator. Haven’t thought twice about what they can really do. Not belittling the 2A but not a damn one will do shite. Just like Europe will be Muslim in 50 years because of out breeding of non Muslims. Marxism will take over here because muh I gotta job. I voted I did my part.
I’m not saying storm DC or eliminating the other side. Out work them because they are definitely out working us. If you ain’t doing shite shut your coward mouths and sit in the corner like the bitch you are. That’s my feelings at this point.
Posting on a message board or putting a meme on Twitter ain’t getting it done.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:24 am to MorgusTheMagnificent
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So what is the point?
Lots of reasons, but to start, it would red-pill a shite ton of fence sitters. We are in the midst of an information war. Factually showing that the Biden administration as well as a portion of congress is fraudulent will motivate people to start waking up. States will begin to not follow orders issued out. Its a whole domino affect, could be the crack in the dam we need.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:26 am to MorgusTheMagnificent
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Is this all just to protect future elections
Yes
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If It is possible to get DJT back in. What are the logistics?
Possible - but not likely result.
Most likely result, if undeniable fraud is demonstrated is that Joe is so mortified by fraud that he resigns. Kamala Harris has no shame so she would never do that. So worst case outcome -
Fraud is demonstrated and we’re stuck with Queen Kamala.
If fraud is found (and proof is undeniable) Congress impeaches and removes Joe and the Hoe, and passes legislation requiring another election; and Trump wins that election.
Alternatively, the Rs could take Congress back, appoint Trump as Speaker of the House, then impeach Joe and the Hoe, at which point the Speaker of the House becomes POTUS.
None of the above are likely if the only audit is AZ. There’s no legal way to install Trump even if Fraud is demonstrated. Courts cannot remove the President. Only the Senate can after a trial on impeachment charges.
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Does all Xidens EO’s go away? Does Trump’s term start from Jan or from when he’s reinstated? To me it seems like you can’t undo what’s done. Like in baseball. If an ump calls a fair ball foul, you can’t go back redo it
If Joe is removed by resignation or Impeachment, his EOs stay until the next President revokes they.
Joe being the President* is a foul ball situation. You cannot undo what is done. But you can make sure that the perpetrators are actually punished and conduct a root cause analysis so it never happens again. I think the best, most humiliating penalty is impeachment and removal. And Stacy Abrams and Ruby Freeman sharing a cell.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:30 am to stuntman
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My hope is that a complete lack of trust in government happens.
The more that people wake up and start to hate government and start to see how absolutely fricking corrupt they are, the better off society will be.
Seems the goal is to become so all encompassing that whether you “trust” them or not becomes completely immaterial. Looks like they are well on their way.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:07 am to RoyalWe
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Facts don't matter here
This needs to be pounded into peoples brains. We are not living in a time of facts and reason. The amount of people who willingly dismiss facts out of hand because it’s at odds with their narrative of view point is not an insignificant number. If facts mattered to people the last 4.5 or 5 years and the absolute lies and treachery that was disseminated from elected officials, anonymous sources and through the media would not have been allowed to stand. There were tons of verified facts that were simply ignored because blind hatred of a man was all that mattered
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