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re: Bill's Hamlin had a Cardiac Arrest
Posted on 1/3/23 at 3:24 pm to tigerfoot
Posted on 1/3/23 at 3:24 pm to tigerfoot
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But his heart attack came when he was hit in the chest, immediately after. Just a fluke.
Its never happened in the NFL. Despite some massive collisions. Data hasnt been found that anyone over the age of 20 died from it while playing football
Data shows that it VERY RARE, and overwhelmingly occurs in teens. Playing baseball.
But much like the 16 yr old that died recently, the narrative is grasping at straws. The 16 yr old was diagnosed with moyamoya. However moyamoya is detected between 10 to 14 years. And surgery restores normal blood flow. So he had never been diagnosed with it, UNTIL AFTER he died
Same with Damar. What could have killed him? Oh, some extremely rare thing that has never happened to a 24 yr old pro football player. Yeah, thats the ticket
Definitely not that he was boosted recently, right?
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 3:29 pm to RobbBobb
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Definitely not that he was boosted recently, right?
Link?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 3:40 pm to Stonehog
Still waiting on those links..
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:01 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I mean, I'm not exactly one of these vax people, but that's what pretty much happens on every play in every NFL game since forever.
lol, the way he was hit rarely happens in the NFL
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:10 pm to Stonehog
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y’all are rooting for this guy to die just to pat yourselves on the back over the vaccine.
Beyond bizarre.
If any "rooting" is going on, it's that the guy is alright; and that forthcoming official statement by tPTB is made as to the truth of the matter with respect to the dangers of the Vaxx.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:10 pm to Hurricane Mike
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lol, the way he was hit rarely happens in the NFL
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:15 pm to DoubleDown
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My man, this happens EVERY practice and every game about 30x per player, per game, per practice, 17-20 games per year.
No shite. To say it "isn't a hard hit" because it "happens all the time" is dumb.
Football players take lots of hard hits. They sometimes take extremely violent hits. Just because this wasn't an extreme hit doesn't necessarily mean it was a soft or low velocity hit. It's not difficult to understand. The normal hit in football is hard on the body. That's a fact. I'm not saying change anything, but that's common sense.
The human body also doesn't respond the same way to every hit, but this is also obvious.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:18 pm to Liberator
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Beyond bizarre.
If any "rooting" is going on, it's that the guy is alright; and that forthcoming official statement by tPTB is made as to the truth of the matter with respect to the dangers of the Vaxx.
Still waiting on links from that POS poster to posts where people are openly hoping this guy dies. I have yet to see one post anywhere on this site where someone says this. Not one.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:34 pm to Willbe76
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And what would be your excuse for soccer players dropping dead? Too much running?
Many have forgotten, haven't they?
Everyone acknowledges soccer players as among the healthiest of athletes -- especially the younger ones. (Which is why reports from Europe are disturbing, but for the most part somehow seldom discussed on ESPN or other "Sports" chatterboxes in the US.
REPORT: 75 European Fully Vaccinated Athletes Have Died or Became Seriously Ill From “Sudden” Heart Attacks In the Past 5 Months (From 2021)
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A recent German media report has discovered a horrifying statistic for European athletes.
Since June 2021, 75 fully vaccinated athletes have suffered “sudden and unexpected” heart attacks.
Was this alarming number of heart attacks caused by the mass COVID-19 inoculation rollout?
That’s the question raised by the report.
The NFL etal are in a oddly precarious position if there happens to be even one more case of so-called "commotio cordis" Or similar incident on OR off the field.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:35 pm to oogabooga68
quote:So if you were to have a heart attack, do you go to the best and nearest ER or Bubba's Used Auto Sales?
There were of course exceptions, but as a whole, the Medical Community has been lowered to Used Car Salesman levels of integrity and believability
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:37 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
Yeah, that kind of sick assumption and speculation is the fodder of fevered minds. (Or the booze talking??)
There's ZIP to support that kind of irresponsible finger-pointing.
There's ZIP to support that kind of irresponsible finger-pointing.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:40 pm to Diamondawg
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So if you were to have a heart attack, do you go to the best and nearest ER or Bubba's Used Auto Sales?
It's 50/50 at this point.
What's worse? An injection of STP? OR, Dr. FauciStein's IV Boosters?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:40 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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It was 100% the hit to his chest
Thank you for your expert analysis Dr Morgus.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:42 pm to oogabooga68
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There were of course exceptions, but as a whole, the Medical Community has been lowered to Used Car Salesman levels of integrity and believability
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:47 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Good grief you haven't thought this through at ALL, have you?
I have and believe the doctors who have said this.
“A problem with the commotio cordis theory for Damar Hamlin (besides the extreme rarity especially with such a minor collision)… After the impact, he rose from prone to standing and took five steps. Asystolic patients don’t do that. His cardiac arrest happened well after impact.
Furthermore, as rare as commotio cordis is, the sports-related cases derive from focal precordial trauma, such as being struck by a small object —baseball or hockey puck— at very high velocity.
Does anyone know of any cases from an unremarkable football tackle? I can’t find one.
Meanwhile we’re seeing skyrocketing cases of collapse and sudden death of young healthy vaccinated athletes worldwide, most occurring without immediate proceeding trauma.
We know the vaccine causes myocarditis. It’s time to take our heads out of the sand.”
LINK
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:49 pm to Liberator
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If any "rooting" is going on, it's that the guy is alright; and that forthcoming official statement by tPTB is made as to the truth of the matter with respect to the dangers of the Vaxx.
So you'll only be satisfied if they blame this on the vaccine?
You do realize it's entirely possible that the vaccine has nothing to do with it right?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:50 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Football players take lots of hard hits. They sometimes take extremely violent hits. Just because this wasn't an extreme hit doesn't necessarily mean it was a soft or low velocity hit. It's not difficult to understand. The normal hit in football is hard on the body. That's a fact. I'm not saying change anything, but that's common sense
Commotio cordis doesn’t happen from a rapid deceleration or a “big hit”.
It has to be a very focal force over the heart that depresses the rib cage into the heart. Shoulder pads disperse the force over a large area and him being 24 makes it less likely that his bones are pliable enough to bend inwards.
It could be commotio cordis, but it doesn’t seem likely to me.
Either way, we will never find out. The NFL and family will never allow anything to be released even if there was a way to determine what happened.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:53 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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Sometimes after the hit, the athlete briefly regains consciousness, gets up and throws the ball, says Dr. Rayborn. Or they may have a crying episode. But then they go unconscious again.
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Although commotio cordis is rare, the risk of it happening is higher in sports such as baseball, softball, and martial arts. “It can also occur in lacrosse, hockey, football, virtually any sport,” says Dr. Rayborn.
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Laake was hit by a shot after sliding to a McDonogh player near the end of the first quarter. He staggered briefly before falling away from the team sidelines, in the direction of the spectator stands.
“I remember taking a couple steps, and then I remember getting super dizzy,” Laake said. “I don’t even remember starting to fall. I just remember getting dizzy, and then I sort of blacked out.”
LINK
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:59 pm to LSUAngelHere1
Posted on 1/3/23 at 5:07 pm to Powerman
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So you'll only be satisfied if they blame this on the vaccine?
Nice math. (GED Common Core??
) quote:
You do realize it's entirely possible that the vaccine has nothing to do with it right?
ANY thing and everything is technically possible.
The issue is probability and the record. AND of course, the degree of credibility of trusted institutions. I'm sure CDC-WHO-Big Pharm-Big Goob wouldn't lie to you.
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