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Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:56 pm to
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you're a shitstain dem


Somebody's triggered enough for personal insults...oh no!

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Koppel asked, " With more consistent leadership, we could have saved a lot of lives. Is that a fair statement?"

"Yeah, I believe so," Fauci replied. "I mean, I think if we had had the public health messages – from the top right through down to the people in the trenches – be consistent, that things might have been different. In fact, I'm pretty sure they would have been different."


MSN
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:58 pm to
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Explain what is wrong with CNN.

CNN did everything they possibly could to remove the 45th president from office including broadcasting falsehoods, untruths and outright lies every single day.
The most untrusted name in cable news.
The gullible, easily led and lower IQ voters believe Trump caused Charlottesville, Parkland and pandemic deaths. Oh, and Russia stole the election.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26387 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:03 am to
LINK[quote]The administration has used deft improvisation to secure huge supplies of PPE.



Any government response to a once-in-a-generation crisis is going to be subject to legitimate criticism, and there’s no question that almost every major government in the Western world, including ours, should have acted sooner. But to read the press, there is basically nothing good that the Trump administration has done over the last three months.

This is manifestly false. In a briefing for reporters last week on FEMA’s work securing PPE, FEMA administrator Peter Gaynor laid out the raw numbers: FEMA, HHS, and the private sector have shipped or are currently shipping 92.7 million N95 respirators, 133 million surgical masks, 10.5 million face shields, 42.4 million surgical gowns, and 989 million gloves.

According to Admiral John Polowczyk, head of the supply-chain task force at FEMA, we manufactured roughly 30 million N95 respirators domestically a month before the COVID-19 crisis. He says we are on a path now to ramp up to 180 million N95 respirators a month.

None of this happened by accident. At a time of unprecedented stress on the supply chain and a yawning gap between supply and demand in the market, it required considerable clever improvisation and determined hustle. This was not your average bureaucratic response. It was a partnership between the public and private sector to get supplies to the United States on an urgent basis and ship them to the places that needed them most, and then begin to ramp up manufacturing here at home.

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A team around White House adviser Jared Kushner and the supply-chain task force under Admiral Polowczyk worked to fly supplies from overseas to the U.S. quickly, to vet leads for additional PPE (the work of volunteers from the business world mustered by Kushner’s team), and to build a cooperative relationship with 3M, the country’s most important manufacturer of N95 respirators.

The story of what they’ve done is a key part of the administration’s response, even if it has been obscured by a press that has an allergy to anything that has worked.

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The initiative to secure PPE has been the subject of constant criticism, whether it makes much sense or not.

Senator Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) has repeatedly said that the president needed a military leader to take charge of the supply chain — when Admiral Polowczyk, the vice director of logistics for the joint chiefs, was already in charge.

The administration has been urged over and over again to invoke the Defense Production Act — when it has indeed used this act many times to prod and guide the supply chain, just not to take over industries wholesale.

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Stories in the press have tended to relay complaints that FEMA has “commandeered” supplies headed for states or other entities. According to FEMA, this is erroneous. After looking into supposed instances of commandeering, Gaynor says, FEMA believes that shady brokers have been using this line an excuse for their own failures. “FEMA has become a convenient scapegoat for malicious actors who are unable to deliver on the promises they had made or are engaging in illegal activity,” he says.

They might make promise to various potential buyers and then pull the rug out from under them when they get a higher bid, explaining that the situation is out of their control because FEMA swooped in and took the material. Gaynor is emphatic that “FEMA does not have the authority to conduct seizures.”

A typical journalistic tack has been to find someone who had a frustrating experience with the administration and make him representative of the entire effort.

A large, quintuple by-lined New York Times feature on Kushner’s volunteers was a particularly egregious example of the genre. It found a doctor named Jeffrey Hendricks who approached the federal government with information that he had “longtime manufacturing contacts in China and a line on millions of masks from established suppliers.”

This wasn’t earth-shattering information, given that many tipsters said exactly the same thing. According to the Times, Hendricks was disappointed when it took weeks to act on his request before a site visit was finally set up to inspect the masks.

After the story appeared, Hendricks said it “did not fully reflect my experience.”


Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:06 am to
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The most untrusted name in cable news.


...is not CNN.

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Among all adult Americans surveyed:

On average, 55% of adults found the nine outlets in the survey credible.
63% of adults said CBS is credible.
61% of adults said NBC is credible.
60% of adults said ABC is credible.
59% of adults said The Wall Street Journal is credible.
53% of adults said CNN is credible, the same percentage as The New York Times.
51% of adults said Fox News is credible.
49% of adults said NPR is credible.
48% of adults said MSNBC is credible.


Business Insider
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26387 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:08 am to
Anyone that peddled Russian Collusion is not credible, and CNN did so.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:11 am to
What’s the name of the group
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:11 am to
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The administration has used deft improvisation to secure huge supplies of PPE.


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Last month as the country struggled to defend itself from the coronavirus, some critics were asking where the Federal Emergency Management Agency was and why is wasn’t working overtime to assist a nation amid the pandemic.

But after being brought late into the government's response and as states continue to sound the alarm, the federal agency says it has raced to catch up to the ever-growing demands and has mobilized quickly to get critical equipment to those who need it.


ABC
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:14 am to
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Anyone that peddled Russian Collusion is not credible


As it turns out, there really was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia

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The investigation by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III ended anticlimactically. Although Mueller’s report detailed evidence of Russian interference and the Trump team’s welcome receipt of help from Moscow, there was insufficient evidence on the so-called “collusion” — that is conspiracy — to rise to the level of criminality. However, thanks to the misleading spin from Attorney General William P. Barr, the extent of the cooperation — collusion, in laymen’s terms — was obscured.

On Tuesday, the Republican-chaired Senate Intelligence Committee released a report with damning details of the extent of cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence operatives.

The Post reports: “The long-awaited report from the Senate Intelligence Committee contains dozens of new findings that appear to show more direct links between Trump associates and Russian intelligence, and pierces the president’s long-standing attempts to dismiss the Kremlin’s intervention on his behalf as a hoax.” These include a determination “that a longtime partner of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was, in fact, a Russian intelligence officer.”


The Washington Post
Posted by DownHome
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:32 am to
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
15927 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:37 am to
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TigersOfGeauxld


Posts link saying that even the "most trusted" news network is still only trusted by 63% of Americans, with most around the 50% mark or less...


... continues to post articles from those networks as if they're gospel.


You've made a meme of yourself here
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73659 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:42 am to
Not to sound arrogant, but you do not want to debate russiagate with me.

I printed out and read the entire senate report, and highlighted it.

Not once in the entire report is there any evidence provided that shows the Trump campaign worked with Russia on its interference campaign in the 2016 election.

The report basically said Paul manafort was a huge NatSec risk, but the report did not say that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia in the hacking of dnc/podesta emails, nor in carrying out an online disinfo campaign.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12832 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:51 am to
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Fauci replied. "I mean, I think if we had had the public health messages – from the top right through down to the people in the trenches – be consistent, that things might have been different.


You mean this guy? From March 2020

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Fauci said: “Right now in the United States people should not be walking around with masks …
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12832 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:55 am to
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The Post reports:
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new findings that appear to show


WaPo

Findings either do or do not show something..."appears"...give me a break.

Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:57 am to
Hail hail to Michigan....


GTFO with your facts, and data.
Your a racist POS.
Expecting competency is "whiteness".
Your just a "while supremacist".
- Liberals
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:05 am to
A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?

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The fifth and final volume of the Select Intelligence Committee’s bipartisan report on Russian interference in the 2016 election is an incredibly long and detailed document. At a whopping 966 pages, volume 5 alone is more than twice the length of the Mueller report, and it covers a great deal more ground.

Along with the shorter volumes 1-4, the Senate’s report is the only credible account of the events of 2016 to which Republican elected officials have signed their names.

It is a bit of a mug’s game at this point to fight over whether what either Mueller or the Intelligence Committee found constitutes collusion and, if so, in what sense. The question turns almost entirely on what one means by the term “collusion”—a word without any precise meaning in the context of campaign engagement with foreign actors interfering with an election.

So rather than engaging over whether the Intelligence Committee found collusion, we decided to read the document with a focus on identifying precisely what the committee found about the engagement over a long period of time between Trump and his campaign and Russian government or intelligence actors and their cut-outs.

Whether one describes this activity as collusion or not, there’s a lot of it: The report describes hundreds of actions by Trump, his campaign, and his associates in the run-up to the 2016 election that involve some degree of participation by Trump or his associates in Russian activity.


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Trump’s campaign, and later transition, were filled with a remarkable number of people who had secret interactions with Russian actors, about which they lied either in real time or in retrospect.


Lawfare

Posted by TchoupitoulasTiger
NOLA
Member since May 2011
1308 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:11 am to
Will join also. I bookmarked the link... but it ain’t dare no more
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:19 am to
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You mean this guy?


Yeah this guy...

Fauci on What Working for Trump Was Really Like

From denialism to death threats, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci describes a fraught year as an adviser to President Donald J. Trump on the Covid-19 pandemic.



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For almost 40 years, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci has held two jobs. As director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, he has run one of the country’s premier research institutions. But he has also been an adviser to seven presidents, from Ronald Reagan to, now, Joseph R. Biden Jr., called upon whenever a health crisis looms to brief the administration, address the World Health Organization, testify before Congress or meet with the news media.


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For Dr. Fauci, 80, the past year has stood out like no other. As the coronavirus ravaged the country, Dr. Fauci’s calm counsel and commitment to hard facts endeared him to millions of Americans. But he also became a villain to millions of others.


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When did you first realize things were going wrong between you and President Trump?

It coincided very much with the rapid escalation of cases in the northeastern part of the country, particularly the New York metropolitan area. I would try to express the gravity of the situation, and the response of the president was always leaning toward, “Well, it’s not that bad, right?” And I would say, “Yes, it is that bad.” It was almost a reflex response, trying to coax you to minimize it. Not saying, “I want you to minimize it,” but, “Oh, really, was it that bad?”


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Did you have any problems with him in the first three years of his presidency?

No, he barely knew who I was. The first time I met him was in September 2019, when they asked me to come down to the White House, bring my white coat and stand there as he signed an executive order regarding something about influenza. Then, starting in January, February of 2020, it was an intense involvement going down to the White House very, very frequently.


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There was a point last February when things changed. Alex Azar was running the White House Coronavirus Task Force, and then suddenly Mike Pence was, and President Trump was at the podium taking the questions and arguing with reporters. What happened?

To be totally honest with you, I don’t know. We were having, you know, the standard kind of scientifically based, public-health-based meetings. Then I started getting anxious that this was not going in the right direction — the anecdotally driven situations, the minimization, the president surrounding himself with people saying things that didn’t make any scientific sense. We would say things like: “This is an outbreak. Infectious diseases run their own course unless one does something to intervene.” And then he would get up and start talking about, “It’s going to go away, it’s magical, it’s going to disappear.”


NY Times
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73659 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:21 am to
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TigersOfGeauxld
You have one of the most absurd posting styles ever. Instead of engaging in conversation, you google stuff and then you find an article that says what you want to hear. You post it as "evidence", instead of using your own knowledge to argue.

I cannot believe you are using lawfare as a legit news source after what was revealed last year.

Matt Tait, one of its writers, wrote a column in lawfare in 2017 that went viral online: The Time I Got Recruited to Collude with the Russians

YET, IN FRONT OF CONGRESS, AND UNDER THREAT of PERJURY, MATT TAIT OUTRIGHT ADMITS THIS WAS NOT TRUE!

We didn't find this out until 2020 when all the congressional testimonies were revealed, in which all the obama hacks and admin officials who pushed the russian collusion conspiracy theories admitted they didn't see any evidence when under oath in front of congress.




Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73659 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:28 am to
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TigersOfGeauxld
If you are interested in the most unbiased review of russiagate, I recommend andy mccarthy's magnificant book "ball of collusion". It is available on Amazon.

McCarthy is a former federal prosecutor and an oft critic of trump.

Another good book to read on the subject (although it is biased towards trump), is Lee Smith's book on the subject.

Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26450 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:48 am to
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be consistent, that things might have been different. In fact, I'm pretty sure they would have been different."


Well maybe the WHO and CDC shouldn't have been changing their minds every other day. That line of consistency?
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