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re: Buyer's remorse
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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posting
This thread is a series of posts, not a "conversation". How dare I do what everyone else in the thread does!
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you google stuff
Shocking!
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then you find an article
Kind of the point of googling.
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...instead of using your own knowledge to argue.
How dare I look things up!
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YET, IN FRONT OF CONGRESS, AND UNDER THREAT of PERJURY, MATT TAIT OUTRIGHT ADMITS THIS WAS NOT TRUE!
Except that's not what happened.
Matt Tait testimony
CNN Politics
So you accuse me of basically lying, of posting biased and/or incorrect information, then you post somethin g from some far-right hack site and draw a completely erroneous conclusion...that sound about right?
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Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:08 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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draw a completely erroneous conclusion...that sound about right?
The testimony you linked literally shows Tait saying the lawfare editors chose a title that was a lie.
He says he would have chosen a different title.
try again.
the problem geauxld, is that you only read articles that back up your existing point of view.
For example, here is an article on the senate intel report you probably have never read. It was written by Aaron Mate', a left wing reporter who was one of the best journalists of russiagate. You probably don't even know who he is because you only read journalists and stories that backed up what you wanted to hear.
ANYBODY can find an article online that backs up their point of view. What you have to do is find all types of articles and then figure out who is lying and who is telling the truth.
Aaron Mate' wrote a 2 part analysis of the senate intel report that I doubt you have ever read or will ever read.
LINK
But it contains tidbits that challenge your existing point of view, so maybe you would be interested in reading it.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
happens
No one said it was a lie. Not the questioner, not Tait. "A little stronger" was the phrase used.
So where was this "
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The testimony you linked literally shows Tait saying the lawfare editors chose a title that was a lie.
No one said it was a lie. Not the questioner, not Tait. "A little stronger" was the phrase used.
So where was this "
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:24 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Do you know what a euphemism is?
Lawfare ran an article claiming this writer was recruited by Russia to hack democrats
It turns out they had no confirmation/evidence at that the time that it was russia. Still don’t.
That is egregious journalism and you know it
They picked a misleading title to get clicks. It’s shameful.
Click-driven journalism is a huge problem right now, on both sides of the aisle.
Lawfare ran an article claiming this writer was recruited by Russia to hack democrats
It turns out they had no confirmation/evidence at that the time that it was russia. Still don’t.
That is egregious journalism and you know it
They picked a misleading title to get clicks. It’s shameful.
Click-driven journalism is a huge problem right now, on both sides of the aisle.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:28 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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Yeah this guy...
So another guy who didn't like his boss and waited until he was gone to shite talk him.
Got it.
On a side note. Why does everything you link come from some of the most leftist, liberal rags in the country?
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:29 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
happens
No one said it was a lie. Not the questioner, not Tait. "A little stronger" was the phrase used.
So where was this "perjury" you spoke of?
That's -your-interpretation, which I don't agree with. I'm reading and reposting what the majority of articles seem to agree on as far as viewpoint. They just don't reflect -your- viewpoint. Which outside of the far-right web sites you seem to frequent, is the consensus.
You posted a picture of testimony with the implication that Tait was completely back-tracking on what he said. That wasn't the case at all.
Because this information was redacted, it's bogus? That's where the good stuff was!
Wiki
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The testimony you linked literally shows Tait saying the lawfare editors chose a title that was a lie.
No one said it was a lie. Not the questioner, not Tait. "A little stronger" was the phrase used.
So where was this "perjury" you spoke of?
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the problem geauxld, is that you only read articles that back up your existing point of view.
That's -your-interpretation, which I don't agree with. I'm reading and reposting what the majority of articles seem to agree on as far as viewpoint. They just don't reflect -your- viewpoint. Which outside of the far-right web sites you seem to frequent, is the consensus.
You posted a picture of testimony with the implication that Tait was completely back-tracking on what he said. That wasn't the case at all.
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Aaron Mate' wrote a 2 part analysis of the senate intel report that I doubt you have ever read or will ever read.
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All the information that supposedly backs up this speculation is redacted.
Because this information was redacted, it's bogus? That's where the good stuff was!
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Since the end of 2017, Real Clear Politics has had a rightward, pro-Trump turn in its content
An October 2019 article in The Daily Beast reported that RealClear Media manages a Facebook page of "far-right memes and Islamophobic smears." Anand Ramanujan, Chief Technology Officer for RealClear Media, responded that the company created the website that was affiliated with the Facebook page "as part of an effort to understand the flow of traffic from social media—particularly Facebook—to political websites."[22]
Since 2017, when a large number of its journalists were fired, RealClearPolitics has had a rightward, pro-Trump turn.[10] The website published articles of its own, as well as promoted articles by other conservative websites, which pushed conspiracy theories about Trump's opponents.[10] After Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election and Donald Trump refused to concede, Real Clear Politics published stories that made false claims of fraud in the election.[10]
Real Clear Politics heavily promotes content by The Federalist, a right-wing site which draws funding from the same pool of donor money as Real Clear Politics.[10]
In 2016, RealClearInvestigations was launched,[23] backed by foundations that promote right-wing views, such as the Ed Uihlein Family Foundation and Sarah Scaife Foundation.[24] In 2019, the site published an article by a conservative author, Paul Sperry, containing the supposed name of a U.S. intelligence officer who blew the whistle on the Trump–Ukraine scandal.[24] The article's publication came as part of a month-long effort by Trump allies on media and social media to "unmask" the whistleblower, whose identity was kept confidential by the U.S. government, in accordance with whistleblower protection (anti-retaliation) laws.[24] Most publications declined to reveal the whistleblower's identity; RealClearInvestigations' editor defended the site's decision to publish the article.[24]
Wiki
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:33 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It turns out they had no confirmation/evidence at that the time that it was russia. Still don’t.
That's a little too strong...see what I did there?. There's little doubt by anyone that Russian operatives had access to the Trump campaign, including insider information.
That's concerning to me, even at that low bar.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:35 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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Explain what is wrong with CNN.
Lol. Lost cause guys, leave it alone.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:35 am to DMAN1968
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Why does everything you link come from some of the most leftist, liberal rags in the country?
I would dispute that. The problem seems to be that you are so far right of center that everything seems to the left to you.
It'd be hard not to be.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:38 am to bayoumuscle21
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Explain what is wrong with CNN.
Lol. Lost cause guys, leave it alone.
Yeah, because I believe a national news agency rather than the Trump dogma and his far-right hack sites. You are well and truly brain-washed.
Irony, that is.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:39 am to Dr Rosenrosen
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Taxes going up, gas prices soaring, no Covid plan whatsoever, open borders, health care costs rising, boys pretending to be girls and playing girl sports, endless lockdowns, mask mandates.......
He's going to replace history's greatest monster.
Bring back the good old' Jimmy Carter days.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:39 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Ahh, the old “attack the source if you don’t agree with what it says”
Aaron mate’ is a left winger and huge anti-trumper.
He was simply one of the few legit journalists who actually did their jobs during russiagate and didn’t jump to explosive conclusions. They were proven right in the end, as not a single mueller prosecution was for conspiracy with Russia.
And you have the gall to go after realclear when you link lawfare, a site run by huge anti-trumper and Comey ally Benjamin wittes.
Look, this is a hopeless endeavor. You are a hardcore democrat not interested in other viewpoints.
Nothing could ever convince you at this point that maybe “Russia collusion” was oversold by major US media, which is why MSNBC ratings ranked after mueller report was released.
Aaron mate’ is a left winger and huge anti-trumper.
He was simply one of the few legit journalists who actually did their jobs during russiagate and didn’t jump to explosive conclusions. They were proven right in the end, as not a single mueller prosecution was for conspiracy with Russia.
And you have the gall to go after realclear when you link lawfare, a site run by huge anti-trumper and Comey ally Benjamin wittes.
Look, this is a hopeless endeavor. You are a hardcore democrat not interested in other viewpoints.
Nothing could ever convince you at this point that maybe “Russia collusion” was oversold by major US media, which is why MSNBC ratings ranked after mueller report was released.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:44 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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Yeah, because I believe a national news agency rather than the Trump dogma and his far-right hack sites. You are well and truly brain-washed.
Irony, that is.
56% of Americans don’t trust media anymore. That includes a lot of democrats and independents.
You don’t that there is a reason for that?
The amount of stories that turned out to be incomplete, outright false, etc over the last few years is insane.
CNN alone had to retract or correct 10 stories on trump and Russia
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:53 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Trump himself cited it:
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lawfare
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The blog came to prominence in January 2017 when President Donald Trump tweeted "LAWFARE" and quoted a line from one of its blog posts that criticized the reasoning in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling that blocked Trump's first refugee-and-travel ban.[2][7][8] Trump reportedly tweeted the excerpt minutes after the line was quoted on Morning Joe.[7] Wittes, who supported the court ruling, criticized Trump harshly for the tweet, asserting that Trump distorted the argument presented in the article.[8]
Wittes also wrote that it was disturbing that Trump, among other things, cited the line "with apparently no idea who the author was or what the publication was, and indeed without reading the rest of the article", and that no one in the White House vetted the tweet.[9]
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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That includes a lot of democrats and independents.
Does it?
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Although Americans' overall trust in the media has remained steady since last year, the 33% who do not have any confidence this year reflects a five-point uptick and is the highest reading on record. Republicans are the main drivers behind this change: 58% of them now express this view, marking a 10-point increase and the first-ever majority-level reading.
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Although Democrats' overall level of trust has not changed, the 57% who now say they have a fair amount of trust represents a 12-point jump from 2019, mostly attributable to a decrease in the percentage saying they trust the media a great deal.
Gallup
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:00 am to Eat Your Crow
Unfortunately Its not i checked
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:03 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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By the numbers: For the first time ever, fewer than half of all Americans have trust in traditional media, according to data from Edelman's annual trust barometer shared exclusively with Axios. Trust in social media has hit an all-time low of 27%.
56% of Americans agree with the statement that "Journalists and reporters are purposely trying to mislead people by saying things they know are false or gross exaggerations."
58% think that "most news organizations are more concerned with supporting an ideology or political position than with informing the public."
When Edelman re-polled Americans after the election, the figures had deteriorated even further, with 57% of Democrats trusting the media and only 18% of Republicans.
LINK
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Edelman
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Edelman is an American public relations and marketing consultancy firm, founded in 1952 by, and named after, Daniel Edelman.[3] It is currently run by his son Richard Edelman. As of 2018, it is the largest public relations firm in the world by revenue
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Edelman supported private prison company GEO Group and helped in "laundering the reputation of private US concentration camps" in July 2019.[53] In May 2019, executives from the Washington, DC office, including office president Lisa Ross and former Trump White House deputy press secretary, Lindsay Walters, went to Florida to present the pitch.[54] In June, when word spread across the company that the work was being pursued, debate sprang up on networking app Fishbowl. The work was resigned by Edelman in July 2019 and announced during an all-hands meeting in Washington. On Fishbowl, an employee commented that the executives "took the opportunity to basically shame us for ruining the work for the company because they couldn’t trust us not to leak it to the press."[54] Other employees on Fishbowl made similar comments.[54]
Yeah, not partisan at all.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:13 am to teke184
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Dog and cats living together, mass hysteria
Next they'll be stampeding the women and raping the cattle.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 3:15 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Lol!!! So let me get this right. You believe CNN and other propaganda agencies?. You could not count the times all these so called news agencies had Adam Schiff on tv saying he had seen evidence of Russian collusion. Other top Dems got on national tv and said the same many many times. CNN or any other of these news agencies never called them on it. The media also sandbagged stories or chose not to cover them if it was going to be harmful to the Dem party such as the Hunter Biden story. Social media sites removed posts of that story. The media also told you all summer that the riots was mostly peaceful while standing in front of burning buildings or a line of cops getting pelted with frozen water bottles or bricks. So go ahead and believe all the liars in the media if you want. Just don’t criticize someone else for picking and choosing the info they want to post on this site and others. And definitely don’t criticize someone for getting that info off a far right site when the media in this country is nothing more than a far left propaganda organizations for the Dems.
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