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Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:05 am to
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:05 am to
More PTB Lies hiding in Plain Sight.

This subject is understandably heavily censored and/or buried as much as possible... exactly because it exposes several simultaneous Big Agendas and Fraud "Science". As usual we must ask: "Cui bono?"

Thanks again for the informative research link and history of Weather Mod/ Geo-Engineering (or rather its "CT"-demonized, mind-conditioned name, "Chemtrails" by any other name.)

It provides an excellent overview of "WEATHER WARFARE" and it's off-shoots; (these weaponized programs also help explain all the wild weather & flooding the US and rest of the world has had -- attributed TO "CLIMATE CHANGE").

Again, FROM YOUR LINK at Rumble ( LINK

A Presentation by Jim Lee of ClimateViewer News given at the Freedom Force International’s 3rd Congress in Phoenix, Arizona. December 3, 2016.

G. Edward Griffin’s “Global Warming: an Inconvenient Lie”

TABLE OF CONTENTS

(2:08) Rainmaker Charles Hatfield and the Lake Morena dam failure
(2:45) birth of cloud seeding 1946
(3:07) Project Cirrus: first cloud seeding on tropical storm
(3:39) Irving P. Krick invents ground-based cloud seeding generator
(4:02) map of cloud seeding projects 1952-1965

(4:12) chemtrails 1958
(4:33) US Navy makes clouds with carbon black 1958
(4:55) map of cloud seeding projects 1961-1988 (Project Skywater)
(5:43) Space Weather Modification begins
(6:11) strontium and barium ion cloud in space (sounding rockets and satellites)

(6:51) chemtrail lawsuit 1970 - New Jersey and Illinois sue airline industry over "smoke pollution of the skies"
(7:26) WEATHER WARFARE: Operation Popeye
(8:57) weather modification reporting laws and forms (1972, 1976)
(9:32) WEATHER WARFARE UN BAN: ENMOD 1978
(10:36) why ENMOD has no teeth
(10:48) modern cloud seeding and the Blue Gold Rush (Water Wars)

(12:15) dept. of homeland security hurricane control
(12:59) USAF and USN carbon black weather warfare FOIAs, Owning the Weather, Weather Modification Test Technology Symposium 97

(14:26) cloud ionizers - electric rainmaking
(15:10) steering atmospheric rivers
(16:27) GEOPHYSICAL WARFARE - Ionospheric Heaters and electromagnetic emissions
(17:51) HAARP
(20:23) HAARP on a Boat: why the military sold HAARP to the Univ. of Alaska
(22:00) GEOENGINEERING, CLIMATE ENGINEERING, AND CLIMATE INTERVENTION
(24:00) Bill Gates FICER and funding geoengineering lobbyists

(28:48) Artificial Clouds: Ship tracks
(29:54) Artificial Clouds: Contrail Cirrus
(32:02) Chemtrail terminology and "Accidental Geoengineering"
(34:27) EPA hearing (Aug. 2015) on Chemtrails

(36:45) Rogue Geoengineering, Clandestine Operations, and ENMOD
(37:24) THE SOLUTION: A CITIZEN-POWERED SENSOR NETWORK TO DETECT WEATHER WARFARE AND CLOUD SEEDING RELATED ACTIVITIES THAT LEAD TO INJURY AND A DEMAND FOR GLOBAL TRANSPARENCY IN ATMOSPHERIC EXPERIMENTATION, NOW!

LINK ]Here is one more outstanding "Geo-Engineering" video-link -- an easy listen with photos, descriptions, tell-tale cloud patterns & shapes; Contrails vs Chemtrails; jet-nozzles and more.

"Weather Modification" is a weapon. with its toxic nano-particulate heavy-metal "Aerosols" of Chemtrails are often paired with HAARP (microwaved energy frequencies). They've been used to help create never-seen-before Extreme Weather with the odd temp fluctuations, Tornadoes, Hurricanes and Freak-Storms. (Of course 'Climate Change' agenda uses all of this to reinforce "dangerous Global Warming".
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:10 am to
Nope.

(Plus 1943 prop-planes did not create Chemtrails.)

Condensation can NOT scientifcally or logically explain the whited out skies, tic-tac toe streams of white plumes, and lingering trails (for several hours), and the agenda that is admitted is in play.

The only initial requirement: Just watch these jets and rely on your OWN EYES.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:19 am to
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1. people post patterns claiming its proof.


Here's a simple challenge:

Now that you're aware of the claims of "CT" of "Chemtrails"...

RELY ON YOUR OWN EYEBALLS. Wake up earlier in the day, and if the sky is blue, by noon the skies will become milky, and by 3:00 whited out.

Then come to your conclusion.

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2. if there were large scale geo engineering there would be several td posters (and their families would know) involved as pilots, chem eng developers, and grunts loading flats.


They DO already know. (They just don't want to engage in this kind forum of battle.)

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3. if there were results (making rain) it would be cause for celebration and an IPO on Cramer and co.


These are "investments" that NATIONS and PTB use for their own wants and needs; MANY nations openly admit they use weather modification to create rain (like Arab Gulf states), or to help clear the skies of clouds or rain (like China during its recent hosting of the Olympics).

Btw, there are links to TWO video that address and answer your questions / challenges.
Posted by tigerfive
Member since Nov 2020
532 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:20 am to
I flew out of STS yesterday. I'm from there. The contrails started noticeably changing in 2001 which was long before Alaska added back flights. Those who have eyes see.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:29 am to
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if there were large scale geo engineering there would be several td posters (and their families would know) involved as pilots, chem eng developers, and grunts loading flats.



Many state governments have laws on it.

First thing to find with water seeding. You guys in denial of this kind of stuff are willfully retarded. I don't know why you guys go to so much trouble to be ignorant.

Major key players that are present in the global cloud seeding market are Weather Modification, Inc. (the U.S.), RHS Consulting, Ltd. (The U.K), North American Weather Consultants, Inc. (the U.S.), Seeding Operations & Atmospheric Research (SOAR) (The U.S.), Snowy Hydro Limited (Australia), and among others.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:30 am to
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I’m wondering the same thing. You walk outside early morning, crystal clear blue skies, and think oh yea, gonna be a beautiful day. Then the planes show up, making the crisscross/hashtag pattern (deliberately making them) and shortly after the entire sky from horizon to horizon is hazy and cloudy.

Can someone explain that to me?


Believe your own peepers. YOU know the truth. I know the truth. MANY here know the truth (trust you own eyes).

We're old enough to remember the days where the skies were a deep / medium blue AND REMAINED BLUE. It's a rare occurrence these days -- no matter where someone is; It's just not the US -- Europe is getting absolutely HAMMERED by Chemtrails/ Geo-Engineering / Weather Mod-ing.

Many of us also do NOT recall the routine criss-crossed plumes of jet trail runs made in patterns, right in front of the sun. This is NOT normal.

I can not understand or believe how so many people have not noticed this going on. Are we that conditioned and distracted?





Posted by banone74
Member since Oct 2006
1197 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:31 am to
I’ll clarify that to me, it looks deliberate. Now you raise a good point about the number of flights/planes in the air. My brother is a pilot and took me up in a King Air and I was amazed at the number of planes stacked at varied altitude just waiting to land. I say “deliberately “ bc that’s what it looks like. One minute, nothing. Then several planes show up and start making those patterns. It pisses me off bc a once beautiful day turns to grey/haze after they leave. It will last for 30min-hr then no more planes, just haze.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:38 am to
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how did you determine whether its deliberate?

i have a friend whose issue was the increase in contrails or chemtrail.


If the subject is censored and truth buried; if govts are involved in its research and implementation; and there are agendas that support its use for propaganda or be "weaponized" in other ways -- it's "deliberate".

Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59866 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:01 pm to
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RELY ON YOUR OWN EYEBALLS. Wake up earlier in the day, and if the sky is blue, by noon the skies will become milky, and by 3:00 whited out.


It was clear one morning than all afternoon it was stormy. Must be chemtrails.

A change in cloudiness is natural and happens all the time, but for some reason you believe it's only possible through chemtrails a deliberate attempt by the government to change our weather.

Weather changes it happens everyday. Airplanes have an impact on the weather (mostly clouds) but its not some government conspiracy.

Also longer-lasting contrails are caused by higher humidity, not chemtrails as you would suggest.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:06 pm to
Whatever happened to Yogagirl? She was big into this
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:06 pm to
I don’t actually look at the sky and notice. I am assuming most people don’t
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:07 pm to
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A change in cloudiness is natural and happens all the time, but for some reason you believe it's only possible through chemtrails a deliberate attempt by the government to change our weather.


What a pilpul, scoundrel way of saying things. No one said such things. Maybe if you make up more things people say you can subvert the conversation even more.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:08 pm to
There is documented proof of the government’s interest in controlling the climate
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29968 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:09 pm to
HAARP
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59866 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:10 pm to
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There is documented proof of the government’s interest in controlling the climate



Ok but that does that mean that all those "contrails" we see in the sky are actually chemtrails? Or that there is a massive effort by the government to control the weather by the exhaust from airplanes in our skys.

I don't deny that there have been efforts to control the environment, but suggesting a naturally occurring phenomenon (condensation at high altitudes, or contrails) is actually a government conspiracy to control the weather is where it goes to far.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59866 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

What a pilpul, scoundrel way of saying things. No one said such things. Maybe if you make up more things people say you can subvert the conversation even more.


Ok so what is actually happening? As I understand it contrails can last a long time in humid weather.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:13 pm to
Like I said, I don’t actually notice because I’m not keeping a keen eye on the sky, but the answer is probably somewhere in the middle, as usual. It’s both.

Kind of like the moon landing. Everyone always argues whether we actually did it or not, citing different shadows in pictures, etc. The answer is that we went to the moon and also took propaganda photographs/videos. You never see anyone bring that up though. It makes perfect sense and it’s absolutely something our government would do
This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 12:15 pm
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
59866 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:21 pm to
Ok that’s reasonable it could be both. I would agree there is some effort to change the weather. But I still hold that contrails are naturally occurring phenomenon that can be explained by basic science.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9412 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:22 pm to
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Ok but that does that mean that all those "contrails" we see in the sky are actually chemtrails? Or that there is a massive effort by the government to control the weather by the exhaust from airplanes in our skys.


What a load of total BS!

Bombers in WW2 left contrails. The sheer stupidity of sheep is mind boggling.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 1:21 pm to
Every plane leaves contrails dumbass. The question is whether they are being used for climate control purposes. That’s kind of the genius of it (if it’s actually happening or they tested it in the past). Discussions and papers are out there talking about doing exactly as people are claiming….from government and controllers like bill gates.
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