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Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48766 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Bob Kerrey (an honorable man, I might add)

The wrong Kerry ran fro POTUS in 04 - Bob Kerry is a good man - don't thin there has been an honorable DEM since him.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37213 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:44 pm to
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I ask again. Is there one liberal on this board, that would not beat the crap out of a terrorist/kidnapper, someone who held the life/lives of their loved ones in their hands in order to find out what it would take to prevent their loved one from being harmed?
Straw man argument. 1) No, because in that case the kidnapper / terrorist isn't going to give up info through torture. 2) We aren't talking about anyone with regards to any specific event. It's more like a child going missing so you start chopping fingers off of every registered sex offenders in a 5 mile radius.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:05 pm to
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Cheney


I loathe this son of a bitch with the fury of a thousand suns. He's everything wrong with big government and the police state in the country. He's a big reason why a lot of libertarians and independents stayed away from the GOP. Bush fricked giving him the VP job.

I hate him so much.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:07 pm to
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That's the elephant in the room on this one. Bush is not trying go hide from this, and is "owning" the decisions he made.


So you're saying that Cheney's being a complete chicken shite pussy trying to cover his arse.

Imagine that.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113821 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:37 pm to


They are both owning it. Cheney is just a little more vigorous.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:46 pm to
My bad, I misread.

At least Bush isn't making a show of it and just saying his two cents and getting the frick out.

Cheney is just defending the frick out of it. He's pretty fricking butthurt that people are calling him exactly what he is.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:13 pm to
Cheney is a real man, he doesn't mince his words nor lie to the American peoples face like the democrats and Obama.

He, like me laughs at idiots who call water boarding torture.

Of course you are a 20 something idiot who knows nothing about anything.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
54234 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:16 pm to
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He is right about one thing. Cheney is a bad person. Bush couldn't have had a worse person as VP.



Only a simpleton would believe such nonsense.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
54234 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:19 pm to
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I loathe this son of a bitch with the fury of a thousand suns.


Such an extreme outburst of human emotion is quite illogical, not to mention irrational.

You may disagree with Cheney on issues and views, but, your emotional outburst is childish.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:25 pm to
quote:
I ask again. Is there one liberal on this board, that would not beat the crap out of a terrorist/kidnapper, someone who held the life/lives of their loved ones in their hands in order to find out what it would take to prevent their loved one from being harmed?

Straw man argument. 1) No, because in that case the kidnapper / terrorist isn't going to give up info through torture. 2) We aren't talking about anyone with regards to any specific event. It's more like a child going missing so you start chopping fingers off of every registered sex offenders in a 5 mile radius.




Will you answer the question? is the question, that was questioned.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:37 pm to
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there was a small window just after 9/11/2001 where the world was actually very friendly to the US....and we shite all over that opportunity.



The world is always friendly, as are most folks when someone bails them out of trouble. But as time goes by, the favor fades from memory, then the jealousy returns. Remember, the country was united for a couple of years after 9/11, behind Bush. Then politics returned.
Remember, after 9/11 our intelligence agency was in shambles. After rebuilding the agency, in a time when ISIS is growing stronger by the day, Politics over rides security. After the next attack we will again be blaming the lack of intelligence. Feinstien and her shenanigans will have been forgotten and the President in office will take the brunt, unless it is a Democrat.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5488 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:51 pm to
And, so what if GWB knew about the 'enhanced' interrogations? He probably did know about them, just like many other in the US Senate & Congress knew about.

We are not talking about some po-dunk sheep herder that was 'unjustly' rounded up.

These are/were the worst of the worst. Scum that was highly trained, and full of intel.

Intel that has led to many victories, many captures of evil men with evil intent on our troops and on our allies and yes, plots on the average US citizen.

Many evil plots & plans are/were discovered and stopped.

Somewhere I smell obama in this. Not really obama but his advisers that are pushing this.

I bet that evil mole, that iranian infiltrator, vallery jarret, is behind this.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:24 pm to
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quote: I ask again. Is there one liberal on this board, that would not beat the crap out of a terrorist/kidnapper, someone who held the life/lives of their loved ones in their hands in order to find out what it would take to prevent their loved one from being harmed?

This is a silly question. What a person might do if they walked into their home and caught someone harming their family has absolutely no relation to the decisions of the head-of-state on a country. There are only two types of leaders in this world, those who believe in torture and those who believe in the Geneva's Convention without exception, and there is no middle ground. No one ever compromises their true moral standards, they only find out what they are.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

We are not talking about some po-dunk sheep herder that was 'unjustly' rounded up.

How do you know this?

quote:

These are/were the worst of the worst. Scum that was highly trained, and full of intel.

But it's already be proven that some of the folks we tortured were completely innocent.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:28 pm to
I want these left wing cocksuckers to pick a real fight with the CIA.
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