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re: Corporations need to take a better lead on developing our work force
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:01 am to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:01 am to tiggerthetooth
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They want ready-made employees that are cheap and will work back breaking hours.
Dont work for a large corporation.
Too many baws think thats the only viable employment.
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:37 am to Powerman
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Evidently it is not sufficient enough because he can't fill them.
yeah....I left off the ever important "nt" in isnt. Understandable why my post didnt make sense
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:50 am to C
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And I’m sure Ford dumps a lot of money into trade schools
They do through a variety of programs and scholarships. What does the Op want them to do? Found a school?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:58 am to Powerman
When I was younger, school offered the chance to learn and explore beyond traditional “book work” in junior high and high school—something that seems to have faded away. We had this great thing called electives, which I took alongside Math, Reading, and English:
Drafting – 1 year in junior high (required before taking woodworking)
Woodworking – 1 year in junior high and 2 years in high school; I learned how to build just about anything, including furniture
Automobile Mechanics – 1 year, including small engine repair (mostly lawnmowers)
By your junior year of high school, you could even attend the local community college for free and take trade classes. Many of my classmates went on to start their own HVAC, construction, or automotive businesses.
When my son graduated two years ago, none of these options were available. Everything was focused solely on college. Somewhere along the way, we lost sight of the fact that valuable education and skills exist outside of a college degree.
And for what it’s worth—PE was mandatory back then, and I believe it should be part of the curriculum again.
Drafting – 1 year in junior high (required before taking woodworking)
Woodworking – 1 year in junior high and 2 years in high school; I learned how to build just about anything, including furniture
Automobile Mechanics – 1 year, including small engine repair (mostly lawnmowers)
By your junior year of high school, you could even attend the local community college for free and take trade classes. Many of my classmates went on to start their own HVAC, construction, or automotive businesses.
When my son graduated two years ago, none of these options were available. Everything was focused solely on college. Somewhere along the way, we lost sight of the fact that valuable education and skills exist outside of a college degree.
And for what it’s worth—PE was mandatory back then, and I believe it should be part of the curriculum again.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:57 am to Powerman
What he’s leaving out is that he’s not offering enough money for the work so he can hire foreign workers who won’t or can’t leave for better jobs
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:00 am to theCrusher
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Drafting – 1 year in junior high (required before taking woodworking)
Woodworking – 1 year in junior high and 2 years in high school; I learned how to build just about anything, including furniture
I had two years of each.
My first real job was as a draftsman. Now I wish I had pursued a career as a wood craftsman.
We need more craftsman and artisans than we need corporate stooges.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:01 am to Powerman
Within 10 years I believe large corporations will have training programs that replace classical college degrees.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:09 am to TheBoo
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One of the few good things to come out of BSEE lately is the requirement for companies to prove the competency of their workforce. It became evident over the last decade, and brutally evident since the China virus, that the baby boomer knowledge and experience was retiring out of the industry, leaving a massive gap in the skills sets of the workforce.
Except now, like all government bureaucracy eventually dies, it’s become bloated, redundant, and a hindrance. I have to prove competency for a myriad of things for my employees that have absolutely nothing to do with my employee’s jobs.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:09 am to Powerman
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why is it up to the government and the nation at large to train people to fill 5000 jobs?
Why would a corporation willingly increase its overhead when they could get the government/public to pay?
They're in the business to increase their shareholders' value, not to train workers.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:11 am to Harry Boutte
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They're in the business to increase their shareholders' value, not to train workers.
Not my problem. If they can't figure out a way to do both they can frick off.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:08 pm to Powerman
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Sounds like a more qualified individual is needed and the pay should scale up accordingly
Completely agree.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:27 pm to Powerman
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Occupations are so hyper specialized that it makes sense for most corporations to shoulder the bulk of the training.
I don't disagree that corporations should provide the specialized training, but you have to have trainable people with a basic understanding a high school mathematics and proficiency in English in order for the training to be of any effect. You can't expect corporations to take people (high school graduates, no less) with less than a middle school proficiency in mathematics and poor reading comprehension skills, and then be able to train them for highly specialized skilled positions.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:29 pm to Swamp Angel
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I don't disagree that corporations should provide the specialized training, but you have to have trainable people with a basic understanding a high school mathematics and proficiency in English in order for the training to be of any effect.
Sure. No one is saying otherwise though.
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You can't expect corporations to take people (high school graduates, no less) with less than a middle school proficiency in mathematics and poor reading comprehension skills, and then be able to train them for highly specialized skilled positions.
Of course not. No one is suggesting that either.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:32 pm to Powerman
This is the same CEO sucking off Chinese made EV’s and then these frickers wonder why politicians like Mamdani got elected. Corporate America constantly fricks over the American worker.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:41 pm to Purple Spoon
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It’s less and less about turning wrenches as more about being an IT guy.
I work on cars as a hobby, and I love it. I also spent 10 years investigating engineering failures/problems for a living and am very familiar with just about anything related to automation and industrial equipment.
Modern vehicles are so technical, the skills required to work on them are the exact same skills someone else is willing to pay more for.
A good automotive mechanic has to be able to understand and troubleshoot automation and controls, software, data communications, electrical systems, rotating equipment and complex process interaction.
A plant will pay more than a dealership for those skills all day long.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:09 pm to Sweep Da Leg
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I have to prove competency for a myriad of things for my employees that have absolutely nothing to do with my employees’ jobs.
Not sure what that could be, outside of general core competencies, which is received through OSHA awareness training anyways.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:16 pm to Powerman
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While that might be true, why is it up to the government and the nation at large to train people to fill 5000 jobs? They should have their own pipeline set up that they fund so they can train the next generation of mechanics.
If he is suggesting that this is a result of many people going to college who really shouldn't be there because of the extreme ease of student loans, he may have a point.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:26 pm to Antonio Moss
There are probably too many people in college
But there are still enough people that are trainable by Ford to become mechanics. If they'd simply invest in the training instead of complaining about it.
But there are still enough people that are trainable by Ford to become mechanics. If they'd simply invest in the training instead of complaining about it.
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