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re: DeSantis' Policies and stances - Explain how he's W, Globalist, GOPe, etc...
Posted on 5/24/23 at 5:01 pm to David_DJS
Posted on 5/24/23 at 5:01 pm to David_DJS
I hate this crap about how Trump didn’t accomplish much and just talked big. Trump battled his own party,- and specifically Mitch McConnell/Paul Ryan/bushes did not appreciate him wrecking their little cocktail party. For gods sake, Paul Ryan LOST Wisconsin when he was on the Presidential ticket, as he had the audacity to campaign against trump (surreptitiously bc he’s such a disgusting weasel), and then Trump actually WON the state. Once elected, Ryan undermined every attempted policy platform Trump tried to institute. Freaking JOHN McCain voted against repealing Obamacare out of spite. It was DIRECTLY counter to the wishes of the electorate, and it’s unforgivable to me. I don’t want any chances of Paul Ryan being involved in any part of the presidency.
Trump is very clear about eliminating the Deep State, bc in addition to Paul Ryan, those ppl really wrecked our country. A plank of Trump’s Platform is Schedule F which fires half the assholes in the CIA. If Desantis pledges to do something similar and sets out a plan for it, I’d reconsider.
Desantis is a career Gvt creature. He’s never held a job in the private sector. My utter suspicion is that he’ll be beholden to the MIC bc that’s the traditional stronghold of the right wing of the Uniparty bird. The MIC’s foreign policy absolutely sucks and it has nothing to do with protecting the country but instead it has to do with protecting defense contractors.
I strongly believe that the Deep State is an existential threat to our liberties and to a free society.
As much as I detest the Republican establishment, my true ire is for the deep state and both wings of it.
And I’m not just talking FBI/CIA (even tho they are the worst offenders). I am referring to any unelected career bureaucrat. These ppl run our lives, tell us what we can and cannot do with our property and are accountable to no one. These people “retire” at 50 yrs old, as we continue to pay their pensions (not retirement accounts that they paid into) and go to work in lucrative positions for the industries they served as they were supposed to be regulating them.
It’s abhorrent and its elimination is my most important priority.
RDS has shown no indication that he’s on a warpath with the DS - but instead he’s on a warpath with the woke. I hate Wokeness too - but not as much as I abhor the Deep State.
Trump is very clear about eliminating the Deep State, bc in addition to Paul Ryan, those ppl really wrecked our country. A plank of Trump’s Platform is Schedule F which fires half the assholes in the CIA. If Desantis pledges to do something similar and sets out a plan for it, I’d reconsider.
Desantis is a career Gvt creature. He’s never held a job in the private sector. My utter suspicion is that he’ll be beholden to the MIC bc that’s the traditional stronghold of the right wing of the Uniparty bird. The MIC’s foreign policy absolutely sucks and it has nothing to do with protecting the country but instead it has to do with protecting defense contractors.
I strongly believe that the Deep State is an existential threat to our liberties and to a free society.
As much as I detest the Republican establishment, my true ire is for the deep state and both wings of it.
And I’m not just talking FBI/CIA (even tho they are the worst offenders). I am referring to any unelected career bureaucrat. These ppl run our lives, tell us what we can and cannot do with our property and are accountable to no one. These people “retire” at 50 yrs old, as we continue to pay their pensions (not retirement accounts that they paid into) and go to work in lucrative positions for the industries they served as they were supposed to be regulating them.
It’s abhorrent and its elimination is my most important priority.
RDS has shown no indication that he’s on a warpath with the DS - but instead he’s on a warpath with the woke. I hate Wokeness too - but not as much as I abhor the Deep State.
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 5:21 pm to BugAC
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Projection much?
Deflection much?
Posted on 5/24/23 at 5:25 pm to Barbarosa
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It's amazing someone can say this about DeSantis while supporting Trump at the same time. I mean anyone with a head on their shoulders can see that's exactly what Trump is doing right now.
So you don’t care about that?
Posted on 5/24/23 at 5:28 pm to Marshhen
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So you don’t care about that?
I’m thinking you are misunderstanding my post. I’m not saying that DeSantis is guilty of this. But that is exactly what Trump is doing nonstop.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 5:30 pm to Wednesday
Wednesday, reading through your post it's clear that we are 100% on the same page about what we perceive as the threats/challenges and what needs to be done about them. Where we differ is in who we should have the most confidence in to lead these changes/this fight. And it's not even that I'm saying it absolutely is not Trump, and it is absolutely RDS that we need to get behind. I have questions about DeSantis, but I come to this discussion with a different understanding of Trump's first term than you.
Okay, McConnell and Ryan are bad. We agree. But how did Trump try to lead actual conservatives in Congress or stand for conservative principles? Nobody said being president has to be easy, and that's true even when your party controls both houses of congress.
Trump couldn't spend money fast enough pre-Covid and then when Covid struck he went off the rails. Trump wanted more spending than Pelosi. Should a conservative not be concerned about this?
And how did Trump engage/lead conservatives when they objected to ridiculous levels of spending - do you remember Trump lobbying for Kentucky to kick Thomas Massie out of congress because he objected to spending? Should a conservative not be concerned about this?
It's possible to be on a warpath with both, and I think scrutinizing RDS's record re: spending and other elements that the DS depends on is needed. But the same needs to be done for Trump, and it starts with a realization that the DS was substantially more powerful, more monied, more intrusive, and more (aggressively) politically bent on Trump's last day in office than it was on his first. That matters.
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I hate this crap about how Trump didn’t accomplish much and just talked big. Trump battled his own party,- and specifically Mitch McConnell/Paul Ryan/bushes did not appreciate him wrecking their little cocktail party.
Okay, McConnell and Ryan are bad. We agree. But how did Trump try to lead actual conservatives in Congress or stand for conservative principles? Nobody said being president has to be easy, and that's true even when your party controls both houses of congress.
Trump couldn't spend money fast enough pre-Covid and then when Covid struck he went off the rails. Trump wanted more spending than Pelosi. Should a conservative not be concerned about this?
And how did Trump engage/lead conservatives when they objected to ridiculous levels of spending - do you remember Trump lobbying for Kentucky to kick Thomas Massie out of congress because he objected to spending? Should a conservative not be concerned about this?
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RDS has shown no indication that he’s on a warpath with the DS - but instead he’s on a warpath with the woke. I hate Wokeness too - but not as much as I abhor the Deep State.
It's possible to be on a warpath with both, and I think scrutinizing RDS's record re: spending and other elements that the DS depends on is needed. But the same needs to be done for Trump, and it starts with a realization that the DS was substantially more powerful, more monied, more intrusive, and more (aggressively) politically bent on Trump's last day in office than it was on his first. That matters.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 5:38 pm to Wednesday
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I strongly believe that the Deep State is an existential threat to our liberties and to a free society.
This. X 1,000,000,000
This is 2024 in a nutshell. If you don’t believe that absolute power corrupts absolutely then you should vote DeSantis or Biden. There’s no real difference… that is the truth.
The “culture war” that is being fought by many people is a complete distraction. The seemingly insane decisions by large corporations to allow the transvestite movement to crush their bottom line is being forced on them to distract from the mounting evidence detailing the CIA/FBI/career politicians’ corruption.
They found their “culture crusader” in Desantis and have thrown support/money/political backing to convince him that he is what America needs right now. To fight this nonsense which will disappear in 2 years just like BLM.
The reason why so many take an Only-Trump attitude is not as much his policy but he wants to end the DC corruption. He was a victim of the Deep State…he is the only one that will stand up to them because he is the only one with a reason to do it. Ron seems like a great guy and someone I would’ve voted for in 2028.
Why did Desantis flip so quickly on his convictions about the Ukraine war? His gut was right … but that was not the party line. Now…he’s against the border wall?
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 5/24/23 at 8:50 pm to Marshhen
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Why did Desantis flip so quickly on his convictions about the Ukraine war?
Explain the flip. Unless you're going to report some news (for me, at least), the flip has been only-Trumper propaganda.
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Now…he’s against the border wall?
JFC it's amazing how retarded only-Trumpers have become.
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