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re: DJT has collected enough money from Mexico in tariffs to pay for the wall.

Posted on 7/12/25 at 1:56 am to
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
7598 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 1:56 am to
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this is not true. have you ever seen a master agreement?

A master agreement is just a contract framework, that could be anything.

That doesn’t change where tariff revenue comes from though. I’m not trying to “gotcha” you here. Just passing info.

Tariffs do generate federal revenue, it’s just the source of that revenue is not foreign. Tariffs might even get us favorable trade terms if used as a negotiating tactic/threat, but your arguments will be more credible in the future by understanding that “tariff revenue” is not foreign money.

If you didn’t know that, now you do. If you did, then it was just a confusing title.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 2:03 am to
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DJT has collected enough money from Mexico in tariffs to pay for the wall.


Mexico doesn't pay tariffs. People who import goods into the country from Mexico do.


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 2:15 am to
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Well tariffs are paid when the goods enter the US….so the exporter is paying it.


No, importers pay it. The "exporters" don't pay anything at any point in the supply chain. You might get some local delivery from the factory to the harbor where it's being shipped out included. But it will stop there, it's the importers responsibility from that point on and you'll have to pay services/people to handle things for you.

Probably easier to do in Mexico, I look into importing from China and it was a pain in the arse with all the shite.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 2:16 am
Posted by Ceazar
Member since Mar 2025
332 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 2:29 am to
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If you ignore who pays tariffs.




So more Eggs cultist? You cultist never know what the Furck you are talking about but you parrot shite as if you do know what the Furck you are talking about. STFU unless and until you actually understand how tariffs and actual economic principles work ya dumb fork.

Thank GOD for President Trump





Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35487 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 2:30 am to
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I never said exporters pay tariffs.

I'm in the game. Customs broker who works for the importer pays the direct tariff and they do bill the importer. however it is not as simple as that. To find out who really pays for tariff is really impossible without the master agreement between the two parties


Most people have never heard of incoterms.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142770 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 2:47 am to
I'm slightly familiar with the process.

The master agreement between any two companies can declare who ultimate pays any number of fees and costs.

I often pay 100% of transportation costs door to door and bill the customer on the US side full the amount. They pay me and then charge back the exporter for their portion of the transportation and any other relevant costs agreed to in the master.

What tariff on which good are you thinking you've paid due to a price hike since
Posted by DougQuaid
Member since Oct 2018
141 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 2:56 am to
Bu-bu-but whaddabout my pedo mossad kike epstein?!? Surly after being in federal trouble since GWB its Drumphs fault that Epstein, Bill Clinton and Lindsay Graham are still held unaccountable.…. Shoulda voted for McCain.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142770 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 3:00 am to
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Probably easier to do in Mexico


only thing easier is you don't have deal with a steam line or air cargo. if you aren't careful steam lines will rape you on dray and container costs if you are not careful.

Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 3:00 am to
Anybody doubting that man’s ability to make deals and create revenue is straight moron.

One thing he will do is make the country much better off financially. People have no idea how much he’s balancing the playing field, we have been getting crushed and shouldering the entire worlds expenses
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6308 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:02 am to
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don't you ever feel silly?

He doesn't possess that level of honest introspection.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
5293 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:18 am to
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He turned a $5m declined request into a $50m approval. Good ROI.



Glad for the wall...but if you dont think that type of increase is bad and riddled with abuse, then you're not paying attention

Trump, un this case, became one of them. More financial abuse.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49012 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:47 am to
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The premise that it was this exact type of indirect reimbursement to which Trump was referring immediately struck me when he said it, merely as a matter of common sense

TRU DAT = I refused to even engage in debate with anyone so stupid as to think otherwise.

Obvious things are simple to understand to all but the most obtuse.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67256 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:09 am to
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If you ignore who pays tariffs.


Even if consumer prices go up the exporter will eat most of the cost...and anecdotally, I haven't noticed any significant cost increases on products I buy on a regular basis.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142770 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:20 am to
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Can you find me one, singular source that says “exporters pay tariffs”? Just one.


Find ne a source that says the importing company pays tariffs. Find a quote where I said exporters pay for tariffs.

Neither the importer or exporter pays the tariff. The customs broker pays the govt if any tariffs or fees apply. Then it’s whatever the two companies decide in there master agreement who pays which accessorial charges. They may agree to split tariffs, shipping, as well as other fees like FSC.




Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101554 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:31 am to
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you ignore who pays tariffs.



So far all evidence has shown that the foreign entities are paying it and not raising prices in the U.S.


There was just a thread a couple days ago on Japanese car manufacturers doing exactly that
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12397 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:40 am to
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Well tariffs are paid when the goods enter the US….so the exporter is paying it.



my old college roommate is way up in Home Depot corporate. We all went on a golf trip a month ago or so and I asked him about it because I didn't actually understand tariffs either. He told me that they have to write a check when they pick them stuff up. He was telling me that orders for Christmas stuff have been fricked up this year because of the uncertainty of the tariffs and whether they could get the money back out of the stuff so they have been having redirect cargo ships to other places around the world to not eat all of it.

that is the jest of how I understood it with him explaining it to me.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7802 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:41 am to
lol false. Even Trump admitted who pays tariffs. Why do you ppl do this to yourselves?

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Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22509 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:46 am to
quote:

quote:
DJT has collected enough money from Mexico in tariffs to pay for the wall.

If you ignore who pays tariffs.






Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22509 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:50 am to

quote:


quote:
DJT has collected enough money from Mexico in tariffs to pay for the wall.

If you ignore who pays tariffs.


Like the way Japan is doing it???
Lol.... TDS blinds you.




quote:

Japan has indeed taken steps to lower its export prices to mitigate the impact of the new U.S. tariffs. This strategy is part of a broader effort to absorb the costs of the tariffs and maintain competitiveness in the U.S. market.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96420 posts
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:51 am to
Look at the panicans scrambling for excuses cause Mexico is paying for that wall

They are so mad and miserable
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