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re: Do any former libertarians feel ideologically lost?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:29 am to Collegedropout
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:29 am to Collegedropout
To guns? There isn't one. Freedom isn't free.
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:29 am to Collegedropout
quote:that's fair
I like the Pelicans more than my hometown team but don't care for hoop-ball really.
i'm an oddity in the south who prefers basketball to football
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:32 am to CorporateTiger
Not sure what you're trying to argue
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:32 am to Collegedropout
There really is no place for libertarian politics in America, which is sad. The SJW's have zero respect for individual freedom and instead want an authoritarian state where power is based on identity politics and victimization. The mainstream of both political parties have zero differences when it comes to foreign policy (maintaining the empire), NSA spying, monetary policy and the War on Drugs (including civil forfeitures). I had hoped Ron Paul's movement would continue after he retired, and though I still think Rand is the best hope nationally for libertarian ideas, there has to be some ability for the party to gain seats in local governments and state legislatures. You really need a strong party infrastructure in order to succeed in federal elections.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:34 am to Tiguar
I hate that neoliberal became a generic boo word here bc when we were the only ones using it it was easier for me to search and determine which memes I had already posted
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:34 am to Collegedropout
No. I've if anything doubled down on my principles.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:34 am to Collegedropout
Because I think libertarians that have abandoned their principles on immigration for security against attacks while standing firm on gun control funny.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:41 am to CorporateTiger
The Ron Paul faction of the Libertarian Party had a much more paleoconservative approach to immigration than did the Russell Means faction. With Means being an indigenous peoples activist and AIM leader, I think it made him much more sympathetic to the plight of immigrants.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:41 am to CorporateTiger
It's not for security against attacks, it's for security against voting Mexicans
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:46 am to joshnorris14
Well that's a separate conversation I don't necessarily agree with, but College specifically referenced terror attacks earlier.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:50 am to CorporateTiger
Yup for me it's both crime and voting.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:56 am to Navytiger74
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There are a couple of guys on here who strike me as fairly libertarian—MrCarton for instance—and it seems they get an awful lot of shite from the resident Trumpkins/fake libertarians.
The guy has routinely stated that the Constitution is a piece of junk. Screw him
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:59 am to texag7
It's done nothing to defend our freedoms. If that was his argument, he is right.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:02 am to texag7
quote:There's nothing inherently libertarian about the Constitution. It has some provisions consistent with libertarianism and others that aren't.
The guy has routinely stated that the Constitution is a piece of junk. Screw him
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:06 am to SCLibertarian
Libertarians needs a serious party. The Libertarian party right now is a joke. I voted Libertarian last election for the first time. I moved on from the Democratic Party in 2012 and Voted for Romney who i thought of as Moderate. Libertarians also need money. It's time for the Libertarians to get serious the window is open right now.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:07 am to Collegedropout
What does a "former libertarian" become?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:08 am to Y.A. Tittle
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What does a "former libertarian" become?
A realist
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:11 am to LSU Patrick
I consider myself a libertarian realist but not a former libertarian.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:12 am to Collegedropout
I'll admit that that Dewey Decimal System has gotten me turned around once or twice.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:18 am to Collegedropout
Libertarian beliefs worked fine until we got covered up with "immigrants" and let them vote
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