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re: Does anyone have an issue with threesomes? (This has become a holy war)
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:03 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:03 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Fair enough.
I wouldn't say that, but I do think they're being un-Biblically selective.
And I think that is only the most obvious thing in the world, but I'm not sure I ever met one of those types of people that freely admit that they pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible and what they want to ignore. I think THAT is the issue, they refuse to acknowledge the factual error in their ways.
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Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:04 pm to CFFreak
I don’t care. Would never do it myself but post pics if you do
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:04 pm to Mrwhodat
frick it...back in the day I’d be all over that. I ain’t ashamed! LOL
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:06 pm to Flats
quote:It amounts to being nosy for the sake of being nosy. Are you ok with people who worry about every single other person and thing that's going on that has zero effect on them or anyone else?
Exactly. Why is your moral line in the sand any better than theirs?
Rape and murder kinda do have adverse effects on people, so there's that.
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:07 pm to shel311
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That's a super weird thing to say.
Well, we could get into the whole you do not understand scripture, fulfilment, etc... Why is that weird? You pick and choose your argument... It becomes circular.
I can respect your beliefs or lack of beliefs...
I just find it funny that people like you want to paint me as something that I am not, especially when you lack in your understanding and are passing just as much judgement as you claim I am passing... Even though I clearly started this thread saying "to each his own"....
Why do my religious beliefs cause you such grief?
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:08 pm to shel311
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It amounts to being nosy for the sake of being nosy.
Maybe they don’t think that’s wrong.
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Rape and murder kinda do have adverse effects on people, so there's that.
So what? Is there some physical property of the universe that makes adverse effects morally wrong?
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:13 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:The scriptures teach that the soul is only purified by Christ's imputed merits by faith and that it isn't until after we die that we are glorified, but it doesn't say that tortured confessions are the way to glory.
Of course not, the fires of the Inquisition were meant to purify the soul before (and compel them to confess) and after death so they would be received in heaven.
So no, excommunication where a person is barred from the sacraments and Christian fellowship (commanded by Christ) isn't really like the Inquisitions.
quote:It's not biblical, and while I'm sure it can be justified by other means, it's not comparable to the steps Jesus provides for reconciliation in Matthew 18.
You have to understand the Catholic Church was really doing the public a service by both holding the accused and confessed sinners accountable for the public good.
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:13 pm to The Maj
quote:Not really. I have no issues with people living their lives religious based on any number of different religious creeds. That's not the issue, the issue is from there picking and choosing which parts of the creed to believe in.
Well, we could get into the whole you do not understand scripture, fulfilment, etc... Why is that weird? You pick and choose your argument... It becomes circular.
My personal creed is if people can make a personal decision with sound mine and those personal decisions have zero adverse effects on others, go for it. I don't want to confuse it either, I can and will often have opinions on those decisions, but never on whether I think they should do it or not. If you want to, oh I don't know, eat roaches, go for it. I think that's pretty darn gross but I ain't going to tell someone not to do it because it doesn't have an adverse effect on anyone...well other than the roaches.
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:15 pm to Flats
quote:I feel like you're going wayyyyyyyyyy too high level here.
So what? Is there some physical property of the universe that makes adverse effects morally wrong?
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:16 pm to shel311
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That's not the issue, the issue is from there picking and choosing which parts of the creed to believe in.
Even if picking and choosing were happening, why do you care? You really are not making any sense in a thread that is asking if you care.
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I think that's pretty darn gross but I ain't going to tell someone not to do it because it doesn't have an adverse effect on anyone...well other than the roaches
so you have an opinion on the matter. What if your opinion offends the roach eaters? Should you change your opinion of what they do?
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:20 pm to CFFreak
Lol how did this get to last in here?
I don't give a flip but do it when you are young and in good shape would be all I would say...
I don't give a flip but do it when you are young and in good shape would be all I would say...
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:22 pm to The Maj
quote:It makes perfect sense. I don't care if 2 adults consent to having a 3some.
Even if picking and choosing were happening, why do you care? You really are not making any sense in a thread that is asking if you care.
Harkening back to me talking about adverse effects quite a few times, I absolutely do think that people's lack of ability to mind their own business and not worry about shite that doesn't affect others is having an adverse affect on this country as a whole, we're seeing shite like that play out every day in today's world, and it's not good for the country.
quote:When I did I ever say I don't have an opinion on anything?
so you have an opinion on the matter.
quote:That's fine, they can be offended.
What if your opinion offends the roach eaters?
quote:My opinion is they should be able to do whatever they want to do, so now, I won't change that opinion.
Should you change your opinion of what they do?
There are quite a few exit ramps between saying something is gross or something along those lines and saying someone is a sinner who will go to Hell if they don't repent for that sin, no?
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:22 pm to pankReb
quote:I'm a priest, yes, as are all Christians. It's called the priesthood of the believer.
Are you a Priest? If not then you aren't the church.
But that's actually beside the point, because Christians are part of Christ's Church, which is both visible (those who show up to church on Sundays) and the invisible (the "elect" of God, who are the ones who actually are saved by Christ's blood).
Jesus gave instructions for how Christians are to deal with each other in Matthew chapter 18. In other places, we are told not to abide the teaching of false teachers. We are to "judge" according to God's word.
quote:I would suggest you start by reading more than a single verse in the Bible. We are told to make judgements all the time. We are to condemn sin and call people to repentance through faith in Jesus Christ. The verse you're referencing is about hypocrisy.
There's a pretty solid part of the bible about not casting judgement. Maybe start there?
quote:Why is "consenting adults" your line in the sand?
There's this whole thing called "consenting adults".
quote:Why Christians "care" is because God cares what we do.
And why the church even cares about what people do under the current defining term of marriage is beyond me. Marriage having to be approved by a local government is something Christianity fought against for a long time. Maybe spend your energy fighting that than judging what two people do who happened to be engaged in a government-approved bond?
This post was edited on 8/24/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:23 pm to BarberitosDawg
quote:Old and out of shape people can have 3somes too, don't discriminate!!!
I don't give a flip but do it when you are young and in good shape would be all I would say...
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:25 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Because of 2 or 3 consenting adults decide to do something that has no effect on you, i'm good with it. I don't see any reason why I'd tell them or feel they're wrong for doing that or anything else that fits that same line.
Why is "consenting adults" your line in the sand?
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:26 pm to shel311
quote:The Church is the body of Christ, and we are to act according to what He has said. If He condemns sin and says that unrepentant sin is not indicative of a true believer, then we aren't to say otherwise.
I thought church/religion was all about forgiveness and accepting people for their sins?
And there is forgiveness in Jesus Christ. The whole point of excommunication is to deprive someone from the means of grace and hand them over to Satan and the temptations of the world so that they can see the error of their ways and come back in repentance and faith. Reconciliation and forgiveness is the goal.
quote:I'm not picking and choosing anything. If a person is an unrepentant gossip and have been approached by the church leadership about it and refuse to repent, that could be cause for excommunication. It's not the specific sin that is at issue, but the sinner's response to it.
Also, we all sin knowingly and in some aspects, continue to do it knowingly so why are you picking and choosing which sins should be punished and which should be overlooked?
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:26 pm to shel311
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I don't care if 2 adults consent to having a 3some.
Then why do you care if someone believes it is a sin?
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lack of ability to mind their own business and not worry about shite that doesn't affect others
This is not what is wrong with this country.
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That's fine, they can be offended.
Same goes for sinners.
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My opinion is they should be able to do whatever they want to do, so now, I won't change that opinion.
Well, consenting adults can do as they like but I am free to think what I like about their actions as well, right? I don't have to change my opinion, right?
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There are quite a few exit ramps between saying something is gross or something along those lines and saying someone is a sinner who will go to Hell if they don't repent for that sin, no?
Not really. If you offend someone with your beliefs and opinions, it really is not different at all and you seem to be the one picking and choosing now.
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:27 pm to CFFreak
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I would like to hear if there is anyone here who thinks it's just flat wrong.
Children need a two parent household, adding a third party complicates things and could create harmful situations for children.
That said it shouldn't (obviously) be illegal.
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:27 pm to shel311
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100%, people not minding their own business on things that aren't adversely affecting anyone is a HUGE reason why we have many issues nowadays.
This is called Karen-ing. Apparently even the Right has their Karen's.
Posted on 8/24/20 at 3:29 pm to CFFreak
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(This has been really useful because now I know who all the religious nuts are here)
That or they are secretly jealous their wife got tag teamed back in their sorority days
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