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Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:37 am to tigerfoot
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Everyone has noticed a drop off in service levels for customer service since this started.
Since it started, when? 20 years ago in some instances?
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:39 am to Epic Cajun
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Since it started, when? 20 years ago in some instances?
WFH isnt solely responsible.
But it did create a lot of entitlement in people with not enough experience or seniority to have entitlement.
those are the ones who frick it up for the rest.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Service gaps are massive. Unlike anything Ive seen in my lifetime
That's what happens with WFH. Productivity decreases number of workers increases. Corporations like Amazon are eliminating WFH for increased productivity and decreased number of workers
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:41 am to Epic Cajun
20 years ago it was utilized after analysis of essential functions many jobs never required being at an office. Many do. Everyone knows it.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
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those are the ones who frick it up for the rest.
If they can't produce results from home, then fire them. It's that simple. Set expectations, and hold employees to those expectations. Would my job be easier in an office, yes probably. But, that's on me as a manager to adapt and be proactive.
The issue I have is that people want to have sweeping opinions on this, as if it's an all or none situation. There are plenty of jobs that are perfectly fine being remote, and there are jobs that aren't fit for it. Saying that everyone should be back in an office is shortsighted, and actually ignores the benefits that remote work brings to an organization.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:44 am to John Barron
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Productivity decreases number of workers increases.
I worked for Labor in 2020 as an investigator.
We had quotas when we worked from home. Most people met quotas, however the number of improper adjudications went through the roof. We had the first failed quarter ever, per Federal random reviews.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:45 am to Epic Cajun
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Since it started, when? 20 years ago in some instances?
There has been a slow decline, but COVID and its aftermath was like a sharp and big stair step down within that decline.
It's weird how no one really talks much about COVID and how badly the response messed things up. I guess there's enough ownership of it on both sides that everyone just pretends like it wasn't a (bad) choice to shut everything down and cluster-f the economy for years and stunt the development of a bunch of kids.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:45 am to Epic Cajun
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If they can't produce results from home, then fire them.
We brought them into the office again, and performance greatly improved.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:45 am to John Barron
How is it not fair for the people who work for the post office, grocery store etc? They could leave those jobs if they wanted to and could easily find work from home. That’s their choice to stay in thosejobs. That’s the beauty of this country, free will. I have a kid with several chronic illnesses that she deals with, thank God I can work from home.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
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We brought them into the office again, and performance greatly improved.
If I have to stand over someone's shoulder to make sure they are doing their work, then I don't want to employ that person to begin with
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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worked for Labor in 2020 as an investigator.
We had quotas when we worked from home. Most people met quotas, however the number of improper adjudications went through the roof. We had the first failed quarter ever, per Federal random reviews.
Ok. I'm convinced. The government should force private companies to make their employees work in the office!
Let's start a new agency to regulate this.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:53 am to Epic Cajun
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If I have to stand over someone's shoulder to make sure they are doing their work,
Thats never been the problem.
Many jobs require collaboration that just cant be accomplished as efficiently away from the office.
I was the first to return, and I flat out told them they were setting the others up for failure.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:55 am to riccoar
quote:Like watching your search history or tracking your posting on here?
There are ways for jobs to know when people are working and when they aren't.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:58 am to geauxcoco
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How is it not fair for the people who work for the post office, grocery store etc?
"It's not fair" is the lamest argument that I've seen against remote work. It's also "not fair" that some people have to work outside in the elements and others can work from an office in air conditioning. I guess we should get rid of air conditioning and even roofs on office buildings so that office workers can feel the same climate challenges of those who work outside.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:58 am to NIH
quote:via conservative regulations.
Why would Elon be able to affect wfh for private companies?
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:59 am to Epic Cajun
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If I have to stand over someone's shoulder to make sure they are doing their work, then I don't want to employ that person to begin with
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:07 am to geauxcoco
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I have a kid with several chronic illnesses that she deals with, thank God I can work from home.
You are not WFH. You are taking care of your kid
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:12 am to White Bear
quote:Conservatives are supposed to like small government. My conservative view would place the onus of those decisions on the private company that should be trying to maximize profits while also maintaining a good workforce that wants to be there. No??
Why would Elon be able to affect wfh for private companies?
via conservative regulations.
Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:45 am to John Barron
That’s not true. I work from home and take care of my kid. She can make it to school some days, but some days she can’t. It would not be fair for me to commit to a job that requires me to be in the office every day, when I know there would be some days she might have to be home. She is 10 years old so there’s plenty she can do to keep herself busy while I need to get work done.
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