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Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:34 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127470 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:34 am to
Post count smack is for those without an argument. You’re a dumbfrick.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4517 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:36 am to
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Post count smack is for those without an argument. You’re a dumbfrick.


Let me guess...


Boomer
Divorced
Bit of a drinking problem
Overweight

Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26816 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:51 am to
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Says the boomer on some random message board.


More lies. This isn't a random message board.
More deflection. a-hole doesn't counter what I wrote.

Typical low info internet dim pushing lies pushed on them by the makers and releasers of the virus.

I mean how fricking stupid do you have to be to take advice from the very people that are trying to make you sick or dead?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140358 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:56 am to
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It's not an anti-viral. It doesn't kill the virus. What are you even talking about.


I did not imply that antiviral means "kill" the virus. Killing the virus would be virucidal. Antiviral can mean kill the virus but anti-viral in terms of COVID means halt or slow viral replication.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:58 am to
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be going to tractor supply and giving it to him myself


Yep, I’d find it (human version) and get it to him.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26816 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:18 am to
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I did not imply that antiviral means "kill" the virus. Killing the virus would be virucidal. Antiviral can mean kill the virus but anti-viral in terms of COVID means halt or slow viral replication.


He knew that.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127470 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:18 am to
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Boomer Divorced Bit of a drinking problem Overweight


Not bad. 0 for 4
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181044 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:19 am to
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then you would think that there would be no questions asked about drugs that passed the trials and were deemed safe





We now live under communism if you are still trying to figure it out
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14739 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:28 am to
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When you are on deaths doorstep, adding a dosage of some random chemical that causes muscle paralysis in nematodes, for your liver and kidneys to filter out, is undo stress on a system that's already on the brink.

Now do Remdesivir!
Posted by smh4wg
Member since May 2021
777 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:02 pm to
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I would suggest everyone reading this thread look up treatment protocols for area hospitals ahead of time so that you know where to go if and when treatment is needed.


Good idea, but I can find no tx protocols whatever on my local hospital's page.

Any search suggestions?
Posted by swamplynx
Lake Chuck
Member since Oct 2014
1277 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:17 pm to
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Where, in LC?



Yea, I dont know where he went, but i can find out if you want to know.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4817 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:24 pm to
A very prominent member of our parish had a famiy member in ICU for 2:weeks.Not on vent but was very sick,his wife asked Drs. to give him ivermectin but was refused.Because of his position he was able to get ivermectin and his relatives wife snuck it into ICU and gave it to him.Lo and behold man got better and was moved out of ICU 2 days later.

People not in medical field don’t realize the stranglehold CMS has on Drs.and hospitals.First of all,there are Pay For Performance protocols that must be followed for reimbursement..Ivermectin is not on the protocol.
Then there are ICD 10 codes that reimbursement is based on.It is very complicated.There are almost 72,000 procedure codes and almost 70,000 diagnostic codes.
Mistakes are made as one can imagine ,both up codes and down codes.If down coded ,facility doesn’t get reimbursement they are entitled to. If upcoded and CMS catches it reimbursement is denied and facility can be charged with Medicare fraud.
To be sure,there is Medicare fraud but many upcodes are simple mistakes and are resolved.
One can bet if a Dr.or hospital doesn’t follow the narratives of the Medical Industrial Complex CMS can make their lives miserable and put them in serious financial jeopardy.

Classic case of he who has the gold makes the rules.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:34 pm to
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How can I research beforehand what local hospital would be the best one in case someone has to go. We have 2 main hospitals here in Lafayette. Lafayette General and Our Lady of Lourdes. Which one is the best for Covid treatment ? As I write this I am home on quarantine because my daughter tested positive at the start of school last week.

I personally will avoid hospitals at all costs. The best plan Is to take the preventive measures and avoid ever getting Covid. We started stocking up last April in IVM and HCQ.

Take IVM 1x/weekly, and vit d, c, zinc, elderberry daily for prevention.

No one I know taking IVM weekly has gotten sick,

The shite works.
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:37 pm to
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A very prominent member of our parish had a famiy member in ICU for 2:weeks.Not on vent but was very sick,his wife asked Drs. to give him ivermectin but was refused.Because of his position he was able to get ivermectin and his relatives wife snuck it into ICU and gave it to him.Lo and behold man got better and was moved out of ICU 2 days later.

Judge Moore? Probably not bc he pushes the hell out of the jab.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
44938 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:43 pm to
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I am not a doctor. However if I were 65+ and got the Rona, I don’t understand why the first order of business isn’t giving a Rx for Ivermectin or HCQ and a freaking Zpack?


Azithromycin (aka Zpack) + GCQ => prolonged QT interval => arrthymia which is no bueno.

Ivermectin is neurotoxic and CYP3A4 inhibitors increase its neurotoxicity. Corticosteroids are a major part of treating covid and they are CYP3A4 inhibitors and some of the most common BP meds are also CYP3A4 inhibitors.

Plus ivermectin has no antiviral properties at safe dosages. It has shown some antiviral activity in lab mice but only at high dosages. It would take 7.0 mg/kg to have and antiviral effect in humans, but the LD50 (dosage at which 50% of recipients die) starts around 2.0 mg/kg.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 5:46 pm to
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It's not an anti-viral. It doesn't kill the virus. What are you even talking about.

Ivermectin is an anthelminthic that has some anti-viral properties. There is in vitro evidence of activity against SARS-CoV-2.
Posted by pizzathehut
west monroe
Member since Jul 2016
1300 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 6:00 pm to
I've got plenty
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
44938 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 6:03 pm to
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Ivermectin is an anthelminthic that has some anti-viral properties.


Not at the FDA approved dosages of 0.15 - 0.2 mg/kg. If given at doses of 7.0 mg/kg or higher then yes it has some anti-viral properties. Of course it would also mean prescribing a potentially lethal dosage of a medication which is something most doctors want to avoid.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41128 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 6:12 pm to
I took 160 mg of ivermectin yesterday and today. 8 pills each day

Covid symptoms gone in less than 48 hours
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55193 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 6:13 pm to
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Basically the family istrying to get the Mayo hospital to allow the use of Ivermectin or let their doctor administer Ivermectin to a loved one.

The hospital won't allow any of it because its not part of their protocol and they don't allow outside doctors in the hospital.

The 70 year old man has been on a vent for 28 days and the hospital has given the a 5% chance of surviving. Since it is looking bad the family wanted to try other things to possibly save his life.

I think the corporate medical establishments disregard of known therapeutic treatments that are being used by some frontline doctors has killed more than the virus itself simply by denying proven alternative care.
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