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re: FEMA is confiscating supplies?

Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:05 pm to
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There is no turf war other than the imaginary one people are perpetuating online. Responsible actors both governmental and individual citizens are coexisting just fine. Certain people online want this to be true


Yes.

After the efficiency and transparency we all witnessed as the benevolent reigning savants in Washington D.C. wisely shepherded us through the COVID-1984 crisis, why would anyone dare question the motives of our benignant benefactors in the Federal Government?

Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:14 pm to
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There is no turf war other than the imaginary one people are perpetuating online. Responsible actors both governmental and individual citizens are coexisting just fine. Certain people online want this to be true


Oh, I see. Where are you getting your information, utmost respected all-knowing sage? Oh, wait, I remember, you have a bud in the PA National Guard who I am sure is well-connected to all aspects of rescue operations in all of the nooks, crannies, hollers, and mountains of the entire southern Appalachian region affected by Helene. That's it. We all should then disregard all of the numerous reports coming out of the woodwork by these hillbillies. All is well! Trust the system!
Posted by CR4090
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:25 pm to
FEMA has been lied to in the past by residents that weren’t affected by a storm, but lived close. I saw it first hand after the 2011 Joplin tornado. People would get free rent, credit cards filled every few days, lump sum every few weeks, and a few other benefits. People would leave their job and get FEMA benefits, SNAP, and unemployment. People would go to the Casino a little before midnight spend what was on their card and then use the refill at midnight.

Just like any other benefits people will cheat the system. FEMA has probably learned their lesson and has cracked down and looked at addresses. Unlike people on SNAP and other types of welfare that don’t need it FEMA might be making these cheaters pay the benefits back.

In 2020 during COVID people took certain benefits and went to jail trying to cheat the system.

FEMA has already called in linemen for Martin. My neighbor left for Florida early this morning.
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28160 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:26 pm to
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There is no turf war other than the imaginary one people are perpetuating online. Responsible actors both governmental and individual citizens are coexisting just fine. Certain people online want this to be true


I'm 20 miles from a fema setup. I suppose this will make me "certain people", but fema started showing up on Wednesday. They approached a local church here that was near where they decided to station. They asked the church to cease their operations of handing out necessities.

They didn't arrest them, so you get a bonus point for that. Fema did refuse to accept any of the water or ice though. So maybe that's a push.

Sorry, this doesn't fit your agenda or your talking points.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3660 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 7:00 pm to
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FEMA has been lied to in the past by residents that weren’t affected by a storm, but lived close. I saw it first hand after the 2011 Joplin tornado. People would get free rent, credit cards filled every few days, lump sum every few weeks, and a few other benefits. People would leave their job and get FEMA benefits, SNAP, and unemployment. People would go to the Casino a little before midnight spend what was on their card and then use the refill at midnight.

Just like any other benefits people will cheat the system. FEMA has probably learned their lesson and has cracked down and looked at addresses. Unlike people on SNAP and other types of welfare that don’t need it FEMA might be making these cheaters pay the benefits back.

In 2020 during COVID people took certain benefits and went to jail trying to cheat the system.

FEMA has already called in linemen for Martin. My neighbor left for Florida early this morning.


First, congrats to FEMA for reaching out proactively for lineman resources (aside - can't believe he term lineman has not been changed) - and it is Milton byw

Second - FEMA should first be concerned with RESPONDING to a given emergency, not to be focused first and foremost on potential 'scams'. That point is totally irrelevant in the first stages of reacting and RESPONDING to an emergency or tragedy.

I would wager all of us commenting here currently have shelter, food, water, power, and of course internet access to post. And most folks on this board I would wager have never experienced deprivation of some if not most of these attributes. I have experienced this in some context over the years. The roughest part is after the event - and unless you have not experienced deprivation of essential resources in some fashion - you don't get it. I would also wager that there are still many folks in the southern Apps that were affected by the flooding that are still living on the edge and needing essentials - and this point our taxpayer dollars should be put to best use.
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 7:07 pm
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 7:07 pm to
Illegal aliens have an app on a free phone to get immediate temporary .egal status.

Does FEMA have an app that will signal location and the resources needed or rescue/ EMS?

/rhetorical- no, they have a paid weather notifications app and that's it.

Tells you all you need to know
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36579 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 7:57 pm to
If you say so. Of course you're right. Do you have any documented proof of this, did you film this? Did you see this in action, I mean you're so close. Oh, you must have been rummaging through the nooks and crannies of all the valleys and ravines.....or am I to just assume because you said it, it must be true.

Glad you have your Starling courtesy of Elon Musk who probably coordinated with local authorities after getting assurances of reimbursement via FEMA
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3660 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:20 pm to
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If you say so. Of course you're right. Do you have any documented proof of this, did you film this? Did you see this in action, I mean you're so close. Oh, you must have been rummaging through the nooks and crannies of all the valleys and ravines.....or am I to just assume because you said it, it must be true.

Glad you have your Starling courtesy of Elon Musk who probably coordinated with local authorities after getting assurances of reimbursement via FEMA


Do YOU have any proof of things there, aside from you PA NG contact? I am guessing no. Your take is to ignore and question reports. I am assuming here, but I wager you have no clue regarding being affected by weather events and dealing with getting basic necessities. Even if you do, why and of what VERIFIED basis can you point the board to regarding your goose-stepping stance on this particular issue?

I am guessing the root cause here is a flaming case of TDS which has sucked any modicum of common sense, understanding, caring, and reasoning out of you.

And BTW, please again post evidence of your take, and also refute video evidence coming from folks in the affected area. Others and I will be waiting - perhaps your PA NG contact can provide videos and updated commentary of what is going on? To set everyone straight????

Also, why aren't you chining in on this thread? LINK
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6819 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 8:31 pm to
Agreed

I was pointing out the $750 is just the start and then they will give more to the people that need it. I was also pointing out that people get more than $750 they are given many more benefits. These people will get housing for free for months some will probably get housing for over a year. In around two weeks FEMA had a couple hundred housing units with water, sewage, and electric setup.

In the Appalachian’s it won’t be as easy or as fast for FEMA because of the mountainous terrain.

One problem was sewage backing up into people’s homes blocks away from the damage and them thinking it was just water. Another problem one of our hospitals was hit and over 200 people were sent to Fayetteville, AR, Kansas City, MO, Tulsa, OK, and Springfield, Mo. Which made it hard to find people that were injured or people that was in the hospital.

I had a very positive experience with FEMA. I had kid born a week after the tornado and they made it easy for us to get to the hospital. I didn’t notice it at the time, but months and years later I did and do. Hopefully people in your area do to

I didn’t receive benefits I lived about 5 miles away.

Buying generators, chainsaws, fans are usually reimbursed and home repairs even if there is preexisting conditions will usually be reimbursed.
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 9:03 pm to
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They asked the church to cease their operations of handing out necessities.



Remember the mini-Napoleons in government who relished their dictates to antagonize us normal humans for not wearing a mask or practicing social distancing? Government power is both a religion and aphrodisiac to these people.

Those same power hungry goons are attracted to government agencies like FEMA as moths are attracted to flame. Never forget that anyone working at any meaningful capacity in a massive government bureaucracy such as FEMA has latent authoritarian tendencies.

The more self-serving and depraved, the higher these Deep State apparatchiks will rise. It is safe to assume that Alejandro Mayorkas is a sociopathic monster.

This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21122 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 6:10 am to
So semantics, FEMA uses local law enforcement to set roadblocks. And they just want to inventory what is being delivered (and confiscated anything deemed unauthorized) by non approved vendors.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9921 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:53 am to
Also from past firsthand experience, don't bring any donations like clothes or food to a Red Cross shelter. They'll throw it right in the trash. That's what they did after Hurricane Ida down here in South Louisiana anyway.
Posted by SJS101
Member since Oct 2007
2857 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:55 am to
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FEMA and Red Cross are both dogshit


About a week after the 2016 Flood, there was a local Baptist Church that organized the preparing of hundreds of meals, water, and ice for victims in my hard hit area and delivered them to neighborhoods where we were gutting our houses and dragging essentially everything we owned to the street. Every other day this group dropped off hot meals to my neighborhood. We got to know them quite well. And within about two weeks they were shut down and ONLY Red Cross trucks were allowed to deliver. Red Cross Vans would deliver styrofoam boxes of hot dogs, bun, and a scoop of beans and a banana with bottled water. The Church members would still show up several times a week to help gut homes and move debris and waterlogged furniture and yes they would still bring bottled water and some food but the organized meal prep was forced to cease.

And the first FEMA inspector refused to come on my property because she was "afraid" of my dog I had him leashed to a runner in my front yard. They specifically asked me to ensure pets were kenneled or leashed when they called to set up my appointment. No shite. My dog was a small corgi/dachsund mix and the friendliest little ball of fluff I've ever known. He barked of course when a stranger walked on his property but he was no where near her. We had to wait several days for a different inspector to call and schedule. To his credit, when my dog barked at him too he walked right over to him stooped down and pet him then completed the inspection.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29639 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:15 am to
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
5879 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 10:21 am to
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Low T Boy


"Low T Soyboy"
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
20133 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24295 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Why did an unmarked Blackhawk rotor wash a supply drop off in western North Carolina




Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
20133 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 3:17 pm to
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