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re: Fully vaccinated parents, both tested positive....Updated OP
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:08 am to FishingTiger
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:08 am to FishingTiger
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:08 am to thetempleowl
I think, "useless" might be a bit of an exaggeration. I believe the mRNA inoculations work to an extent, but I don't think they're the panacea we hoped for. I know there was promising research being done by an ENT BR doctor. Dr. Barham, I think? Some kind of nasal spray? I don't know, but it seems like we need better anti-viral treatments targeted at sars-cov-2. Something like a Tamiflu for covid.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:09 am to thetempleowl
quote:for me yes. My immune system works just fine
I'm curious. Do you actually believe this?
quote:Never said i did frick stick
I mean hell, if you think it is a plot to give millions of dollars to certain companies, can't you think of easier ways to do it?
quote:Again, you are injecting your own stupid views and assuming they are mine. Idiots argue this way
Hell, they could've directly given the money to people by hiring them as consultants. Why go through this big thing?
quote:Yes, i have
I'm wondering if you ever thought this through.
quote:They changed the definition of "vaxxed" to include those who received the injection within 14 days. Vaxxed are being hospitalized, the numbers dont reflect it because of the faulty methods being reported.
Also, if the vaccines are useless, why are so few vaxxed people in the hospital?
quote:taking out of your arse here
Why are the vast majority of people in the hospital younger and less in danger than the vaxxed people?
quote:they dont stop the transmission, they dont develop antibodies, they dont prevent you from getting sick. Whats the fricking point?
Honestly I find it difficult to believe anyone could actually think they are useless.
quote:you sir, are dumb. Like 95 IQ dumb.
But if you do, please let me know. And kinda give me an idea why. But if coming up with a weird idea of why, think could it have been done easier to disprove your idea. Because of it could've been done easier, why didn't they do it that way?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:12 am to Ricardo
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useless
Is totally asinine and willfully ignorant.
I get hesitancy due to conflicting political and financial motivations and lack of data on long term side effects.
All it takes is a very, very simple comparison of deaths in the fully vaccinated vs deaths in the unvaccinated.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:15 am to AUjim
quote:Not when they change the definitions of "fully vaccinated" to suit their needs. They include deaths within 14 days of injection as unvaccinated so any conclusions drawn from the tainted data will be inconclusive or skewed to favor your talking point. Which was the intention of changing the definition in the first place
All it takes is a very, very simple comparison of deaths in the fully vaccinated vs deaths in the unvaccinated.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:18 am to AUjim
My grandmother is likely going to die today of COVID. She is in her 90’s and fully vaccinated.
When it is your time to go, it is your time.
When it is your time to go, it is your time.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:21 am to Privateer 2007
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Terrible.
No wonder ppl are dying.
I really think the way hospitals are treating ppl is contributing to the deaths.
Couldn't have anything to do with the number of people in the hospitals right......Right?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:30 am to stout
Anecdotal, but I have heard that pharmacies in South Louisiana are refusing to fill Ivermectin scripts.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:33 am to ChexMix
quote:
Not when they change the definitions of "fully vaccinated" to suit their needs. They include deaths within 14 days of injection as unvaccinated so any conclusions drawn from the tainted data will be inconclusive or skewed to favor your talking point. Which was the intention of changing the definition in the first place
Google is such an easy tool to use and here you are spreading nonsense.
Quote from an article back in March -
quote:
When are you considered “fully” vaccinated against COVID-19?
It depends on which vaccine you get. The CDC currently says that you’re considered fully vaccinated when you meet the following criteria:
It’s been at least two weeks since you had the second shot in a two-shot series (i.e. with the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines).
It’s been at least two weeks since you received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
But, if you want to be really safe after getting the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, you’ll wait four weeks to consider yourself fully vaccinated, says Thomas Russo, M.D., professor and chief of infectious disease at the University at Buffalo in New York.
The reason: During clinical trials of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, an immune response was detected in 76-83% of people aged 18 to 55 and in 60-67% of people over 65 after 15 days; by day 29, though, 90% of participants had antibodies in their blood, regardless of age.
Article
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:36 am to FishingTiger
Monoclonal Antibodies are the single best thing you can get when you test positive according to the physicians at my hospital. Get them right at the moment you know you're positive.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:39 am to FishingTiger
I didn't realize we had this many doctors on the board. Amazing!
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:44 am to thetempleowl
quote:
vaccine is useless.
I'm curious. Do you actually believe this?
Yes. Yes, he does. Surely you've read enough of the bullshite some of these fricktards have been posting to know that.
In spite of the numbers showing that the overwhelming majority of people in hospitals are unvaccinated, you have these dumbasses saying stupid shite like this.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:47 am to ChexMix
quote:
vaccine is useless.
I know you believe this, but you are wrong. The majority of hospital admissions right now are unvaccinated. The vaccine provides antibodies just like previously having Covid does. Antibodies seem to be the strongest advantage at beating Covid right now. Getting the monoclonal antibody infusion would have been good for his parents, and it's an outpatient infusion. You are not admitted. Trust your personal doctor.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 8:56 am to ChexMix
quote:
for me yes. My immune system works just fine
Wow. Amazing.
quote:
Never said i did frick stick
Nice!
quote:
They changed the definition of "vaxxed" to include those who received the injection within 14 days. Vaxxed are being hospitalized, the numbers dont reflect it because of the faulty methods being reported.
Do tell.
So you are upset that it behaves like a vaccine...
quote:
taking out of your arse here
I'm curious. So you disagree with the statement that the people in the hospital are predominantly unvaxxed and that the age of people in the hospital tends to be younger than before?
So every hospital in every state is lying to us?
quote:
they dont stop the transmission
They slow the transmission
quote:
they dont develop antibodies
Seriously? You are the first person I've heard claim this...
Out of all the idiots, you are the first I have seen claim this. So all the antibody tests are wrong?
quote:
they dont prevent you from getting sick
They definitely help prevent you from getting sick. And they help prevent you from getting seriously ill. And they help prevent you from dying.
quote:
Whats the fricking point?
They slow transmission. They help prevent you from getting sick. If you get it, the vaccine helps prevent you from getting seriously ill and dying.
quote:
you sir, are dumb. Like 95 IQ dumb.
Jesus. I actually am in awe of what you wrote. I mean I won't say that this is the dumbest thing I have seen in this board, but it is up there...
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:17 am to stout
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quote:
running down a lead for ivermectin prescription.
LINK
Theres links that you can order directly. No need to contact physician but it takes a while to receive the order, Everyone should have either ivermectin or hydroxy in the medicine cabinets just in case, This virus isnt going away and almost all of us will catch it sooner or later.
I havent changed a thing and only wear a mask when its apprpriate to not start a BS thing. Im in the corner, Im going to live my life and it will be better to catch the thing sooner vs 10 years from now, while Im still strong and healthy. Loved full stadiums this weekend with no masks. Lets see what the quacks like Fauci say, when all of us say "we are done with your mandates and misnformation.
2 thoughts on Fauci besides he should be arrested/
Why dd he begin taking 10x's the daily limit on Vitamin D3 but never mentioned it?
Why when he realized the "vaccination" was wearing off as soon as 4 months, he never mentioned it and infact began more demands for the "vaccine" at that point?
Im in the corner of Do not comply any more with anything the government is mandating, whether it makes sense on the surface or not. If i catch it and am the .05% that dies I wont blame a soul. You have choices in a free society sometimes we make good ones sometimes we dont. But its the only way to roll for me.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
"It's just a mask." "It's just six feet." "It's just two weeks." "It's just non essential businesses." "It's just non essential workers." "It's just a bar." "It's just a restaurant." "It's just to keep from overwhelming the hospitals." "It's just to make the cases go down." "It's just to flatten the curve." "It's just a few inmates." "It's just to keep others from getting scared." "It's just for a few more weeks." "It's just church. You could still pray." "It's just a bracelet." "It's just an app." "It's just for tracing." "It's just to let others know you're safe to be around." "It's just to let others know who you've been in contact with." "It's just a few more months." "It's just a large gathering but for protests." "It's just a few violent protests." "It's just a vaccine." "It's just a little microchip." "It's just a blood test." "It's just a scan." "It's just for medical information." "It's just a vaccination certificate." "It's just like a credit card." "It's just a few places that don't take cash." "It's just so you can travel." "It's just so you can get your driver's license." "It's just so you can vote." "It's just a few more years." "It's just a place to stay short term, its just a camp, its just too re educate you, it's just an organ, it's just a a family member, its just a communal shower" is that a guillotine? It's just your head. Chop! It's just the New World Order...
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:23 am to FishingTiger
your dad is a comorbidities guy already on oxygen.
the vaccines saved him.
vaccine mRNA does not prevent catching it at all.
greatly reduces risk of death for non comorbidities people.
the vaccines saved him.
vaccine mRNA does not prevent catching it at all.
greatly reduces risk of death for non comorbidities people.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:37 am to ChexMix
quote:
for me yes. My immune system works just fine
Just curious, do you think it is possible that you could get covid and get sick enough that you would have to be hospitalized?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:42 am to CelticDog
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vaccine mRNA does not prevent catching it at all.
Uhhh, yes it does.
It decreased you risk compared to non vaxxed people.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:46 am to FooManChoo
I’m very sorry, I hope that your family is able to be with her
Posted on 9/8/21 at 9:55 am to LSUJML
quote:Thank you very much.
I’m very sorry, I hope that your family is able to be with her
My grandfather and father are able to be at the hospital with her. I'm just waiting for the text that says she's passed at this point.
She is/was a believer in Jesus Christ, so I'm not concerned for her at all, but my grandfather will be devastated to lose his wife of 60+ years.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 9:56 am
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