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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:28 am to
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:28 am to
keep applying the pressure....it drives the DEMS crazy!

The 2020 was fraudulent, period. The count may have been accurate, but the validity of the DEM vote was absolutely wrong.

The 2020 COVID election will go down in history as extremely questionable, and that's a fact.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471805 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:28 am to
quote:

What does a divorce court lawyer know about RICO?


I've been a part of a (state/civil, so not fully applicable) RICO case before

While not federal, I did secure a successful remand from the WDLA as well as argued several pretrial motions.

I've also been counsel for several people charged with it, at least one point in their prosecution. Again, state-level, but criminal this time.

I'm no expert, but I've dabbled.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:31 am to
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So when you check the number of votes cast in Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin between 2016 and 2020, you don't see what you would expect to see with massive fraud. For example, in Pennsylvania Biden's total votes did go up 18%...but Trump's went up 14%. The net difference is almost exactly the percentage that protest votes syphoned off in 2016. Same in Wisconsin. Biden up 18%, Trump up 15%. The difference was mostly Stein not being on the ballot and other protest votes not happening (write-ins, Libertarian Party, etc).

You can do 2024 as well. The highly contested purple states had extremely high participation in 2024 as well. The divergence in DEM support in these states and majorly DEM states explains the total/national voting loss. Had there been this massive fraud in 2020, it's highly unlikely you'd have seen these results in 2024 in the contested states (where the purported fraud occurred in 2020).
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142770 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:33 am to
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I’d bet SFP has forgotten more about RICO than you’ve ever known


SFP, you, and I have been involved in the same about of Rico trials. - Zero.

But, this is what I like so see from my legal dream team. 2nd chair defending 1st chair.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471805 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:39 am to
RICO trials aren't that common b/c they are so complex it's not the favored method of prosecution. It's typically a last ditch effort with a legit, layered, organized crime enterprise.

Here is an article about it after the DOJ lost the RICO case against Diddy

quote:

“Outside of death penalty cases, the RICO statute has some of the most difficult elements to satisfy,” Mitchell Epner, a former assistant U.S. attorney in New Jersey, told NewsNation.

That’s, in part, because of the “cumbersome requirements” prosecutors must meet to get a RICO conviction, Epner added.

In Combs’ case, the jury had to find that at least two criminal acts occurred within his enterprise. Prosecutors offered the jury charges related to kidnapping, arson, bribery, witness tampering, forced labor, sex trafficking, transportation to engage in prostitution and drug distribution.

The jury ultimately found Combs not guilty of that racketeering charge after telling the judge they were deadlocked over it after one day of deliberation.


quote:

RICO has an expansive reach, but historically, U.S. attorneys’ offices have been cautious in how they read the statute to not overreach, former federal prosecutor Jeff Chemerinsky told NewsNation.

“RICO cases tend to be necessarily more complicated and more involved, longer and require a different type of evidence than any other cases,” Chemerinsky said. “You have to prove not just the crimes charged, but also that the whole enterprise existed and the defendant’s participation in it. All those take on an extra burden.”
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142770 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 10:42 am to
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RICO trials aren't that common b/c they are so complex


My point stands.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8214 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:02 am to
You handle both civil and criminal cases???
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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471805 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:17 am to
Yeah and family stuff. I've done all kinds of stuff over my career. I used to work for someone and didn't have a choice/say in what cases he took.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:26 am to
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8214 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Yeah and family stuff. I've done all kinds of stuff


I would never pretend anything like that - my only "criminal l" was a ticket my son got for underage drinking - in Gainesville and for laughs - courtroom was packed
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471805 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:40 am to
I was in 2 different criminal courts just this morning
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
2770 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:40 am to
You’re such an intellectually dishonest hack. The evidence is out there and there’s lots of it to show the fraud is rampant
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
5840 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:45 am to
Got a family court lawyer in podunk Louisiana expounding on cases he has absolutely zero experience trying in court. Dunning-Kruger in full effect.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 11:48 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
95265 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:48 am to
quote:

Here's why: Trump actually didn't win the 2016 election. Clinton lost it. And what I mean by that is that those states that Trump "miraculously flipped" in 2016—Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan—he didn't really flip them. That's not what happened.


what in the heck?

You think those states just magically flipped to DJT? You're trying to minimize his efforts and downplay HRC's lack of an effort.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12195 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

You think those states just magically flipped to DJT?


No, I explained why i think those states went for Trump.

I'll try again.

If you take the Green party votes and add it to Clinton's totals in 2016 in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, Trump loses in 2016. That's not a theory. That's a fact.

When The Democratic Party gets the Green Party thrown off the ticket in 2020, Trump loses the same states.

Again, fact.

You stopped reading my post at the last part you quoted, didn't you?
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
95265 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

You stopped reading my post at the last part you quoted, didn't you?



No sir, I laughed the entire time reading it actually because it's asinine.

Regardless, we're on two different planets relative to this thread so it's pointless to even discuss. Have a good day
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12195 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

we're on two different planets relative to this thread



I'm on the one that uses math and simple arithmetic.

Which one are you on?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12195 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 2:57 pm to
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downplay HRC's lack of an effort.


No, I'm explaining how her lack of effort (and likability, and dookie policies) ended up causing people to cast twice as many protest votes in those states as usual.

I'll try this: They didn't vote for Trump. They just didn't vote for Clinton.

You're not very smart, are you?
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