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Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:50 pm to
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We've now redefined NeverTrumpers to include 2x Trump voters


To vote for and not want is not the same.


You were NOT for Trump and complained.

you are now 100% anti Trump over many others.


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At least we're learning from the Alinsky-ites


Nope. You are entitled to your vote. You are making the decision to talk and debate.

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:51 pm to
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To vote for and not want is not the same.



Ah, don't pass the purity test, got it. But it's definitely about election integrity and not about Trump, yeah?

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you are now 100% anti Trump over many others.



LOL no I'm not, I'll vote for him again if I have to, be as emotional as you like about my lack of undying fealty

Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Why does it have to be Always Trump vs Never Trump?



This started with Petti demanding the issue talked about in this thread is all about supppoting Trump. It is not.


election integrity is not about Trump.

Many people were harmed over election integrity in Ga. Ballot harvesting took place in the runoff.
Posted by Jjdoc
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Ah yes, the internet, where I can find studies and reports by the hundred about the complete absence of election fraud. That's what you meant, right?


No. What I mean is opening up the constitution of the State of Ga and seeing the powers of the executive branch.


You have ran from everything you claim in this thread Petti.

Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:55 pm to
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Ah, don't pass the purity test, got it.


There is no purity test. Nice side step.


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But it's definitely about election integrity and not about Trump, yeah?



correct.

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LOL no I'm not, I'll vote for him again if I have to, be as emotional as you like about my lack of undying fealty



Now you are back to lying.

Again.. this is about the lack of action by the executive branch in Ga. Has not one thing to do with Trump.

Not one.

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 1:57 pm to
You just lashed out and lectured me on not being a genuine Trump supporter (Voting for him isn't the same!!!), but I'm supposed to completely separate that from the battle between Trump's selected candidate and Kemp, which is the subject of this thread. Interesting. Quite a pickle.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:02 pm to
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I don't really understand the point of nefariously twisting what I'm saying here, but you do you.



What are you talking about?

Did you just not express concern about how others would vote to justify your stance to support Kemp?

Is that not what you meant?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55499 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:04 pm to
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You just lashed out and lectured me on not being a genuine Trump supporte

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No no. I pointed out that you were a never Trumper in 2016 and are now actively saying you don't want him.

Is that true or not?

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but I'm supposed to completely separate that from the battle between Trump's selected candidate


You can not vote for a guy who refused to act and not vote for a Trump person at the same time!

You chose to vote for a guy that ignored voter fraud in the run off as well as 2020 general.

You are the one making this about Trump.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:16 pm to
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This is fully on the Fulton County Board of Elections.


If your quarterback sucks arse and coach leaves him in the game, at what point does it start being the coach’s fault and not just the QB?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86713 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:23 pm to
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What are you talking about?

Did you just not express concern about how others would vote to justify your stance to support Kemp?

Is that not what you meant?


Not at all. My point is that you think I view the world too narrowly (as in, if we don't fix election security nothing else matters). But my counter is that election security is probably fruitless (albeit an appropriate aim) if the country is filled with people who reject the core tenants of said country in the first place. Meaning, if 60% of my countrymen stand against what I believe, ensuring they get all 60% and I get all 40% doesn't eliminate the much larger problem for people like us. In other words, it's not elites or media or politicians or election fraud at the root of the problem, it's the people who live down the street.

It doesn't have anything to do with my vote in this election. In that regard, I'm not saying "even if you're right it doesn't matter because of _______ so I'll vote Kemp." I'm saying "I'm not convinced you're right and that Kemp needed to do anything differently, and given the alternative and Kemp's record, I'll vote Kemp."
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55499 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:23 pm to
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If your quarterback sucks arse and coach leaves him in the game, at what point does it start being the coach’s fault and not just the QB?




STOP!! YOU ARE JUST SUCKING OFF TRUMP!!


Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:25 pm to
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If your quarterback sucks arse and coach leaves him in the game, at what point does it start being the coach’s fault and not just the QB?


Do you believe the SOS or governor has the authority to put all of Fulton's election workers on the bench and replace them with other people? Like your football metaphor?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86713 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:27 pm to
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No no. I pointed out that you were a never Trumper in 2016 and are now actively saying you don't want him.

Is that true or not?



It is untrue. I voted for Trump in 2016. I said in 2016 - explicitly - that I was not part of the NT movement. Which is why I didn't vote for or in any way support Evan and backed away from the Trump naysayers I previously found some alliance with (say, John Schindler, etc.) before the election. I do not really like Trump as far as believing he's a good person or influence, but I'm not anti-Trump as a candidate. I was Cruz/Rubio in 2016 before supporting Trump. I've since been critical of both.

If you want to go back further, I was pro-Romney, but that was in the McCain era so I don't think I deserve too much shite for that.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:32 pm to
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governor has the authority


The Gov is over the Executive branch. It's really simple here.


Who does the AG sit under?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62500 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:38 pm to
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Not at all. My point is that you think I view the world too narrowly (as in, if we don't fix election security nothing else matters). But my counter is that election security is probably fruitless (albeit an appropriate aim) if the country is filled with people who reject the core tenants of said country in the first place. Meaning, if 60% of my countrymen stand against what I believe, ensuring they get all 60% and I get all 40% doesn't eliminate the much larger problem for people like us. In other words, it's not elites or media or politicians or election fraud at the root of the problem, it's the people who live down the street.



That's what I thought you meant. And, that's your justification for supporting a guy who refuses to assure that elections are fair and transparent, right?

I will simply never agree with that. I do not think controlling election outcome is the right course of action even if the result of controlling election outcome means my preferred candidate prevails.

We will never agree.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86713 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 2:39 pm to
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That's what I thought you meant. And, that's your justification for supporting a guy who refuses to assure that elections are fair and transparent, right?



I explicitly said it had nothing to do with it
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74288 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:07 pm to
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The Gov is over the Executive branch. It's really simple here.


Who does the AG sit under?



1: 808 doesn't need you to answer for him.

2: You clearly know nothing of Georgia's constitution. The executive branch does not control elections. The Secretary of State, which is it's own office, and does not report to the executive branch, oversees elections.

3: Your answer is non-responsive to the question I asked 808.
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