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re: GA Rico case-phone call charge dismissed

Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by masoncj
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:34 pm to
Id like to know that as well…several of them if I recall

Would be great to call them out for their idiocy
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33807 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:41 pm to
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How?

It was a federal election. certified by a state authority. A piss ant DA from some backwards county doesnt have the power to imprison the leading candidate of the opposing party in response to a federal/state election.

The states attorney should have snatched the case from her, then dismissed it, just as the this GA superior court judge has done
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471492 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:43 pm to
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The states attorney should have snatched the case from her, then dismissed it,

What law permits this? I'm not a GA attorney.

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just as the this GA superior court judge has done


You do know the whole case wasn't dismissed and even his ruling permits the DA to re-file these charges, right?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62551 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:47 pm to
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You do know the whole case wasn't dismissed and even his ruling permits the DA to re-file these charges, right?


What are the ramifications of presenting an illegally retrieved recording to a grand jury?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156689 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:49 pm to
Probably BamaATL or Maomcgrath
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25522 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:49 pm to
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What are the ramifications of presenting an illegally retrieved recording to a grand jury?




Cwill says this is just an angle and of no real value.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47028 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:50 pm to
Still holding out hope, I see
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25522 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:52 pm to
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Probably BamaATL or Maomcgrath



No, it was one of the newer ones.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156689 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:52 pm to
Hmmmm. Newer commie.

WB Davis?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471492 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Still holding out hope, I see

I'm just stating facts. No personal opinions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471492 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:55 pm to
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What are the ramifications of presenting an illegally retrieved recording to a grand jury?

I"m not a GA attorney so I can't weigh in.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62551 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:03 pm to
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m not a GA attorney so I can't weigh in.


What are the ramifications in LA?
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
2054 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:10 pm to
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Not much left…lol out our board experts saying phone call would take him out


So if I'm reading this quote from the judge correctly this seems to be less about the phone call specifically and more about the vagueness of the thrown out charges of "soliciting an official to break his oath of office".

"These six counts contain all the essential elements of the crimes but fail to allege sufficient detail regarding the nature of their commission,” Judge McAfee wrote in his ruling. “They do not give the Defendants enough information to prepare their defenses intelligently, as the Defendants could have violated the Constitution and thus the statute in dozens, if not hundreds, of distinct ways.”

Regardless, that's 6 charges down, only 32 more to go.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2738 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:12 pm to
I think that the judge is doing everything he can to not have to deal with the fruit of the poison tree arguments by the various defendants by trying to remove any counts tied to the phone call, but not saying the recording of the phone call itself was invalid.

That way the case itself remains, he doesn't have to get into the legality of the hows, wheres, and whys of the recording, he avoids a messy fight that is guaranteed to be appealed either way, and theoretically provides Willis the ability to keep an August trial calendar.

This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 1:17 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33807 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:20 pm to
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What law permits this? I'm not a GA attorney.

GA is the only state that doesnt allow change of venue? I was unaware of that
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Nature and Gravity of the Offense. The “nature” of the offense refers to the peculiar facts or aspects of a crime that makes the case sensational or otherwise brings it to the consciousness of the community. The more sensational the portrayal of the facts of a case the more likely it is that jurors will be prejudicial by publicity. The “gravity” refers to its seriousness in the law and to the possible consequences to an accused in the event of a guilty verdict.

It was really a no-brainer
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his ruling permits the DA to re-file these charges, right?

With this ruling the DA should be properly removed from this case by the other judge, and there will be no re-filing
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
2054 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:21 pm to
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think that the judge is doing everything he can to not have to deal with the fruit of the poison tree arguments by the various defendants by trying to remove any counts tied to the phone call, but not saying the recording of the phone call itself was invalid.

That way the case itself remains, he doesn't have to get into the legality of the hows, wheres, and whys of the recording, he avoids a messy fight that is guaranteed to be appealed either way, and theoretically provides Willis the ability to keep an August trial calendar.

I don't envy the guy. Any ruling he gives on any matter on this case is going to be called politicized by one side or another.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15843 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:22 pm to
If judge does not throw Willis and Wade to the curb, his career is over.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471492 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:23 pm to
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GA is the only state that doesnt allow change of venue? I was unaware of that

I didn't respond to you talking about changing venue. Why are you changing your argument?

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33807 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:33 pm to
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I didn't respond to you talking about changing venue. Why are you changing your argument?

You have another term for changing the case from local to state/federal authority? I mean, i could have used the term removal, if that helps you any
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86815 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:47 pm to
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So if I'm reading this quote from the judge correctly this seems to be less about the phone call specifically and more about the vagueness of the thrown out charges of "soliciting an official to break his oath of office".



I think two of the six relate to the phone call, assuming that all of the solicitation charges involving Trump/SOS stem from the call. The others relate to petitioning the House/Senate on the alternate electors ruse/scheme/plan.

It knocked out 1/4 of the charges against a professional friend of mine.

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