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re: Good for Pope Francis
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:44 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:44 pm to GumboPot
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FWIW evolution is taught in Catholic schools.
The Catholic Church has been intellectually open to evolution for more than a century.
Somehow, it has gotten stuck in some peoples' heads (not accusing Klarvin of this, but it's out there) that all of Christianity is anti-science when the Roman Catholic Church has been a leading light for scientific advancement and general learning for a very, very long time. Some ugly episodes notwithstanding (and even Galileo's deal was arguably more due to a personal slight than actual theology), it's been a pretty consistent thing for at least 500 years and often far before that. Albertus Magnus, Lemaitre, Mendel, Pascal, Avogadro, Descartes, St. Augustine, and on and on and on and on were all either deeply Catholic or actual men of the cloth.
Also, I'm pretty sure schools like Georgetown and Notre Dame and Villanova wouldn't be thought of as top tier universities if they were even hinting at anything other than evolution. The way Catholic theology has been constructed since at least the Renaissance has been with much more significance on the "why" than the "how".
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 8:47 pm
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:50 pm to Roger Klarvin
1. Catholicism is a Christian religion, despite what they claim.
2. As others have said, this isn't news.
2. As others have said, this isn't news.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:54 pm to Goombaw
Catholics invented Christianity. I thought this was common knowledge.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:55 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Catholics invented Christianity. I thought this was common knowledge.
Jews invented it..
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
God bless Papa Francisco. The beautiful Pope!
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:57 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Catholics invented Christianity. I thought this was common knowledge.
Technically first century Jews invented it. The Catholic Church just monopolized it.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
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God is not “a magician with a magic wand”
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:59 pm to Roger Klarvin
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quote: Catholics invented Christianity. I thought this was common knowledge. Technically first century Jews invented it. The Catholic Church just monopolized it.
You misspelled monetized.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:01 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Somehow, it has gotten stuck in some peoples' heads (not accusing Klarvin of this, but it's out there) that all of Christianity is anti-science when the Roman Catholic Church has been a leading light for scientific advancement and general learning for a very, very long time. Some ugly episodes notwithstanding (and even Galileo's deal was arguably more due to a personal slight than actual theology), it's been a pretty consistent thing for at least 500 years and often far before that. Albertus Magnus, Lemaitre, Mendel, Pascal, Avogadro, Descartes, St. Augustine, and on and on and on and on were all either deeply Catholic or actual men of the cloth.
I understand, my OP was largely trying to incite a response from some of our resident knuckle dragging evangelical young earthers.
I have great respect for many catholic intellectuals. I just find southern evangelicals/baptists theologically shallow and simplistic compared to Catholicism/High Protestantism and the great catholic thinkers, and I say that as someone who grew up an evangelical.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:05 pm to Fun Bunch
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However Evolution has so much overwhelming evidence that supports it and none that doesn't.
Here's my belief, people can TIFWIW, agree, disagree think I'm a fool, whatever:
I see no contradiction between evolution and a literal interpretation of Genesis. As I posted earlier, according to Genesis, when Adam was one day old, he appeared to be a full grown man. The trees that were in created, according to Genesis, appeared to be 10, 20, 30 years old the day after they were created. Evolutionary principles that may be fact would have been set in motion when the Earth was created. Just as Adam was a day old yet "evidence" would show him to be 20 years old, just as a tree was a week old but "evidence" showed it to be 30 years old...the fact that the same "evidence" may show the Earth to be millions of years old doesn't necessarily mean that it is.
People may think that's absurd, but is it any more absurd than believing a man who's been dead for three days can come back to life and then ascend to heaven?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:34 pm to BamaGradinTn
That's pretty damn absurd.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:12 pm to DelU249
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The church has embraced the Big Bang for some time
The theory was conceived by a catholic priest.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:17 pm to BamaGradinTn
A canonically elected pope is only infallible concerning morals and theological teachings. A non-canonically elected pope is not a pope at all.
Papal Infallibility has only been used twice in a few hundred years:
LINK
There is no papal infallibility concerning evolution, climate change, how the universe was created, etc. The Bible has a story explaining the way the universe was created, but not how it was done. "...and then there was light.", as if it came out of no where, like a Big Bang happened, and God would have been the cause of the Big Bang. The Big Bang could have been caused by God. This would mean science and the Bible agree. More prayerful study and discernment is needed.
Evolution is a REAL theory that still is unproven. The more scientists discover, the dimmer the Darwinian theory of evolution is.
500 scientists disagree with Darwinian evolution LINK
LINK
"I have come to the conclusion that Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory, but a metaphysical research programme... (Dr. Karl Popper, German-born philosopher of science, called by Nobel Prize-winner Peter Medawar, "incomparably the greatest philosopher of science who has ever lived.")
Papal Infallibility has only been used twice in a few hundred years:
LINK
There is no papal infallibility concerning evolution, climate change, how the universe was created, etc. The Bible has a story explaining the way the universe was created, but not how it was done. "...and then there was light.", as if it came out of no where, like a Big Bang happened, and God would have been the cause of the Big Bang. The Big Bang could have been caused by God. This would mean science and the Bible agree. More prayerful study and discernment is needed.
Evolution is a REAL theory that still is unproven. The more scientists discover, the dimmer the Darwinian theory of evolution is.
500 scientists disagree with Darwinian evolution LINK
LINK
"I have come to the conclusion that Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory, but a metaphysical research programme... (Dr. Karl Popper, German-born philosopher of science, called by Nobel Prize-winner Peter Medawar, "incomparably the greatest philosopher of science who has ever lived.")
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:45 pm to Fun Bunch
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That's pretty damn absurd.
That a man who's been dead for three days can come back to life and ascend to heaven?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:17 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The whole concept of a pope and papal infallibility is 180 degrees opposite from Biblical teaching about the nature of God
"Peter, here are the keys to heaven and what you bind on earth is bound in heaven and what you loosen on earth is loosened in heaven"
(Jesus Christ - the gospel - the new testament. )
I dont like this pope either but the roots of the papacy are very biblical
Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:29 pm to fightingtigers98
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Or do you not know about people being immune to diseases, rapid size growth, and a vast others?
So you think these things are evolution? Maybe medicines, environmental learnings, better food sources, and increased intelligence moving out of Africa could have influenced it also? That doesn't make the leak from tadpole to human though.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:52 pm to Roger Klarvin
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:13 am to Roger Klarvin
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I applaud him for dragging Christianity kicking and screaming across the threshold of scientific progress.
You have no idea what the frick you are talking about.
Ponitifical Academy of Sciences.....
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Stephen Hawking is a lifetime member of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, which gathers leading world scientists to advise the Popes on scientific issues.
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 12:24 am
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:18 am to Dandy Lion
quote:I'd be careful throwing out numbers of adherents to justify truthfulness. Islam has a few members, too, but I wouldn't say they have the truth.
Catholicism outnumbers greatly the sum total of all Christian heretics.
Hardly a ´faction´, it is the One True Church.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 12:20 am to BamaGradinTn
Yes, it's a waste of time in the sense it won't do anything.
It's good as a placebo for morale for some folks, that's really about it.
It's good as a placebo for morale for some folks, that's really about it.
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