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re: Great point about the Covid Vaccine...
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:16 am to BamaRidger
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:16 am to BamaRidger
Everystein singleberg and timeowicz
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:16 am to NC_Tigah
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"This" being claims that a vaccine is not a vaccine? Of course I'm calling that bull shite.
Vaccines. Prevent. Infection.
Goddammit you are a moron of the highest order if you're trying to sell these shots as a vaccine. Don't tell us we didn't get sick after getting those shots, we damn well know we did.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:20 am to NC_Tigah
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Because it's bullshite.
100% safe and effective!
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:22 am to Aubie Spr96
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The only rational explanation is that they already had it on the shelf.
That’s a bingo !
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:22 am to Tomatocantender
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Thanks for clarifying that you're still a Covid "we must follow the science" vax nazi.
Presumably you've either conflated posters or have someone else in mind.
quote:Not intentional. I'd be happy to detail out positions you assume to be vague.
vague generalities
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:23 am to dgnx6
quote:Negative!
100% safe and effective!
But it is a vaccine.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:25 am to NC_Tigah
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Negative! But it is a vaccine.
They lied about this.
They don’t deserve my trust.
You go ahead and continue to double down. They straight up lied to all of us.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:26 am to BamaRidger
They’re just pumping them out like new flavors of skittles
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:26 am to NC_Tigah
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But it is a vaccine.
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But it is a vaccine.
then so is baby aspirin. neither baby aspirin nor the shots are a killed or attenuated virus injected to prevent infection
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:29 am to BamaRidger
And my ER doctor told me the vaccine is the greatest gift to mankind.
Even those people that have a semblance of critical thinking skills, just don't want to see the truth.
To know the truth, will make you question everything.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:31 am to NC_Tigah
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I'd be happy to detail out positions you assume to be vague.
Sounds great. Let's start with a position you seemed to be perfectly fine with in the past involving Biden mandating Covid vaxxes to the general public and attaching to OSHA to put the heat on employees. I would like you to re-state why this was a good idea as you've said to me before, a one-shot-fits-all herd inoculation in Sept 2021 when 2 months prior (summer 2021) there were breakthrough Delta cases popping up all over the place. How was injecting the masses (majority being young, healthy, no co-morbidities) with 2 rounds of mRNA a good idea when the breakthrough cases proved the juice was already outdated from the Delta variant? The floor is yours NC Tigah, let's hear your position.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:31 am to OccamsStubble
quote:As. Does. This. Vaccine.
Vaccines. Prevent. Infection.
... as long as the vax matches CV19 variants in circulation, it's quite effective.
The problem is by the time the boosters hit circulation, the targeted variants are no longer dominant, and effectiveness against dominant viral strains is often poor.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:33 am to BigTigerJoe
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And my ER doctor told me the vaccine is the greatest gift to mankind.
Saying this allowed him/her to keep his/her medical license, make money, feed his/her children, go on vacations.
Stating otherwise could have gotten him/her fired, publicly shamed, and sued out of existence. Stating nothing about the shots could have ended in the same result.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:36 am to BigTigerJoe
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And my ER doctor told me the vaccine is the greatest gift to mankind.
Contrast that with my internal medicine guy. He went totally against the vaccine and refused to use it. It cost him his partnership in a large practice. He's now with a much smaller group and able to practice the way he sees fit. Every time I engage in one of these vaccine topics, I thank God that I picked him for my internal med guy.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:36 am to Tomatocantender
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you seemed to be perfectly fine with in the past involving Biden mandating Covid vaxxes to the general public and attaching to OSHA to put the heat on employees.
As I said, you may be conflating posters. That's not my position.
quote:That framing doesn't seem right either. Could you link the post?
re-state why this was a good idea as you've said to me before, a one-shot-fits-all herd inoculation in Sept 2021 when 2 months prior (summer 2021) there were breakthrough Delta cases popping up all over the place.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:37 am to NC_Tigah
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As. Does. This. Vaccine.
... as long as the vax matches CV19 variants in circulation, it's quite effective.
The problem is by the time the boosters hit circulation, the targeted variants are no longer dominant, and effectiveness against dominant viral strains is often poor.
Then the President, the Head of CDC, the Heads of all major News Organizations, the CEOs of Pfizer/Mederna/J&J should have said "the shots prevent infection somewhat if the shots are precisely in alignment with the only variant circulating in your system in a short duration after receiving the shots"
But they didn't, they stated you will not get infected if you take the shots.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:39 am to OccamsStubble
quote:They lied.
But they didn't, they stated you will not get infected if you take the shots.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:40 am to countrytiger60
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also before the vaccine came out, they passed a law that you can't sue the company if you have adverse reactions from the vaccine. they covered their arse!
I think this legislation might've been passed in the 80's.
But yeah, they made sure their arse was covered.
Only country in the world that has legislation letting pharmaceutical companies off the hook for issues caused by vaccines.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:47 am to NC_Tigah
quote:This is how I think as well. I took the vaccine in early 2021 and was around lots of people. I did not get Covid until June of 2022 when the Omicron variant was prevelent. Not that it was confirmed but that is what we assumed. The safety issues are a whole different argument and I refused boosters and will continue to do so unless there is some unforeseen reason for me to take one.
As. Does. This. Vaccine.
... as long as the vax matches CV19 variants in circulation, it's quite effective.
The problem is by the time the boosters hit circulation, the targeted variants are no longer dominant, and effectiveness against dominant viral strains is often poor.
Now why the government bought billions of dollars worth of the original when we were several variants away from the original virus was totally stupid but we know how the money flows in this crap.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:50 am to NC_Tigah
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That's not my position.
Okay, you're starting to prove my original point that you ride both sides of the fence with vague responses to cushion into plausible deniability. If that's not your position, then clarify for the record what your stance actually is. So I'll ask the question again: In the past you seemed perfectly fine with a Covid one-shot-fits-all approach to achieve 85% or greater herd immunity; why did you feel that way?
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