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re: Hamas & Iran Have Won
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:22 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:22 pm to BuckyCheese
Qatar and some others are doing this. SA isnt doing it anywhere near enough to even consider doing anything that could destabilize relations with the US on the grounds of oil and weapons sales alone.
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:27 pm to goatmilker
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I'm all for a plan that works. Lay it on brother.
All of you motherfrickers better start getting along, or I’m gonna make your cities a parking lot, one by one, until you do..
Any questions? Good. Now accept peace and let’s all enjoy this short life we have together.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:29 pm to RCDfan1950
Hell I really don’t know, baw. You raise some serious and relevant points. It makes me think of the “tunnel rats,” and I use that reference with nothing but veneration, in the Vietnam War, the guts it took to go down into many of those tunnels completely “blind.”
So in the cases of tunnels that are known, any and all tunnels, what about the approach that Russia has taken in terrorist hostage situations before……pump some agent through there that knocks you out, but not necessarily kill. Which of course would have to be at strong enough levels that could be deadly, instead of “undershooting” it. Then go through there masked up, pull everyone out and figure out who’s who thereafter.
**And the above is specifically with the thought in mind of hostages possibly being present.
So in the cases of tunnels that are known, any and all tunnels, what about the approach that Russia has taken in terrorist hostage situations before……pump some agent through there that knocks you out, but not necessarily kill. Which of course would have to be at strong enough levels that could be deadly, instead of “undershooting” it. Then go through there masked up, pull everyone out and figure out who’s who thereafter.
**And the above is specifically with the thought in mind of hostages possibly being present.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 9:31 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:32 pm to BigBro
Yeah we more or less have been doing a slightly less extreme very extended version of this plan as the world police since 9/11. It hasnt worked and never was going to work doomed from the beginning because our objective was literally "winning hearts and minds" instead of "slaughter them all."
I know I spent a year in each theater. It doesnt work because these people don't respect the sanctity of life. They much less respect the values of this era of peace and compassion (read weakness mostly) that it seems was an intense overreaction to WW2. It wont work without intense slaughter because its all those people know and have ever known. And not by bomb as your suggesting. They have lived with knowing they could die by bombing since 2001 at least at any second. Must be intense men on the ground.
Your objective in war is literally to kill and slaughter your enemy in submission. Not be nice and try to convert them.
I know I spent a year in each theater. It doesnt work because these people don't respect the sanctity of life. They much less respect the values of this era of peace and compassion (read weakness mostly) that it seems was an intense overreaction to WW2. It wont work without intense slaughter because its all those people know and have ever known. And not by bomb as your suggesting. They have lived with knowing they could die by bombing since 2001 at least at any second. Must be intense men on the ground.
Your objective in war is literally to kill and slaughter your enemy in submission. Not be nice and try to convert them.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:34 pm to td01241
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Qatar and some others are doing this. SA isnt doing it anywhere near enough to even consider doing anything that could destabilize relations with the US on the grounds of oil and weapons sales alone.
SA has supposedly started work on a 100 mile long city. Like a block wide and 100 miles long.
They're also supposed to be building some city from the ground up out in the middle of the desert that is to be a tourist destination. I've only heard of this as it's supposed to have an F1 track as part of it.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:43 pm to td01241
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Your objective in war is literally to kill and slaughter your enemy in submission. Not be nice and try to convert them.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:44 pm to goatmilker
Very simple, tell Saudi if they want to listen to Iran they can start asking them to protect them.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:56 pm to BuckyCheese
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I've only heard of this as it's supposed to have an F1 track as part of it.
Side note
F1 is so fricking boring now a days with those turbo charge engines, plus the new tracks suck as well!
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:04 pm to BuckyCheese
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The Arabs have never shown themselves to be worth a damn in war.
Meh - from the rise of Islam until the Turks, they had a solid 4 or 5 centuries.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:29 pm to LuckyTiger
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Biden Administration
I found the problem in the equation.
Plus, Biden’s handlers didn’t want that to happen anyway.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:31 pm to goatmilker
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They do have that glowy thing...
Why do you avoid noting the significance of that day?
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:37 pm to LuckyTiger
bullshite
You should head for cover
You should head for cover
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:40 pm to BuckyCheese
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The Arabs have never shown themselves to be worth a damn in war.
I hate to be that guy, but I really feel like it's time for Christians to take the Muslim piece off of the chess board completely. We can squabble over it later.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:44 pm to RemouladeSawce
There is no fix of any substance available as neither party(ies) wishes to co-exist and in the event one could be found it would not last as the inherent distrust will never cease.
The only solution is winner takes all and the defeated vanquished from the annals of history
The only solution is winner takes all and the defeated vanquished from the annals of history
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:46 pm to Ace Midnight
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Meh - from the rise of Islam until the Turks, they had a solid 4 or 5 centuries.
Well, I'm talking about since the advent of electricity.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:46 pm to davyjones
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And why didn’t Biden’s predecessor have a deal in place when he left office?
Predecessor must have had something in place to avert it to begin with, because I don’t recall having any issue like this during the last administration. What do you think it was with the Trump administration that averted the situation to begin with?
Apparently he never heard of the Abraham Accords.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:48 pm to tiggerfan02 2021
Trump had the accords, so Peace in the Middle East, and Biden screwed that up , too. But Biden got those millions from China, and this is what they wanted
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:02 pm to Lsupimp
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don’t see any outcome that is a long term win for Israel.
That was always the outcome for them-no win, they selected to broker deal with Saudis- (most reasonable). Others then attack.
You say they can’t win, but this is just a battle. If they move in and there’s no Gaza in 2 weeks, then ya they in road to victory.
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:06 pm to LuckyTiger
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Saudi Arabia has suspended plans to normalize relations with Israel amid the latter’s ongoing war with Palestinian Hamas militants,
Was never happening anyways
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:14 pm to LSUvet72
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Israel needs to drive the Palestinians either into the sea or in to Egypt ending the Palestinian State forever.
Not gonna happen.
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