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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:11 pm to
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Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) said in a post on social media that he will introduce an amendment to the Senate bill that would delete all its text and replace it with the version passed by the House in May.
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Sounds like a serious person
sounds like how obummercare got passed. Where was the parliamentarian then?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:13 pm to
Why doesnt that loser Massie send tweets like that
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:16 pm to
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I don’t think when what they have accomplished benefit us, but they can at least pass a bill.

I mean the TCJA was the most significant tax break for most Americans in over a decade.

Despite the “tax cuts for the rich” mantra. The TCJA helped families and the middle class. Did it help people who don’t pay income tax? No. Did it help people who make poor voting decisions on their state tax rates because they think for some reason the federal government should subsidize their bad policy? No.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
36444 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:17 pm to
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sounds like how obummercare got passed. Where was the parliamentarian then?

I guess this makes you a moron. The affordable care act wasn’t passed via reconciliation. It was passed during the narrow window of the Democrats having 60 senators.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:25 pm to
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noted that Johnson previously committed not to hold a vote on a bill that increases the deficit over a certain threshold


Chat, what does “increase the deficit” mean?
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:27 pm to
Frickin clowns in a frickin clown show all doing the my dick is bigger than yours and frick the citizens who voted for us.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:38 pm to
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It was passed during the narrow window of the Democrats having 60 senators.


Thank you, Arlen Specter.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:40 pm to
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I mean the TCJA was the most significant tax break for most Americans in over a decade.


It also:

Added $2.289 trillion to the national debt.

Permanently extending expiring provisions would add $4.6 trillion to deficits over the 2025–2035 period



Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:40 pm to
They’re all so freaking corrupt and swampy
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6830 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:47 pm to
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The system sucks. It never produces anything good, just more and more debt.


They try and put to much stuff in one bill. It’s almost impossible to get a clean bill passed

Would rather have 5 or 6 smaller bills with no riders than one big bill.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 9:48 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14720 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 9:59 pm to
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Most Americans still disapprove of his job performance and the overwhelming majority of Americans disapprove of this omnibus bill.
Fool, he's approval among his base is astronomical. That is who decides the primaries. If he wants you out, you are gone. No need to look any further than Thom Tillis.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 10:03 pm
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
2721 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:19 pm to
Shocked that you’re wrong about this. Just shocking
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127385 posts
Posted on 7/1/25 at 10:21 pm to
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I guess this makes you a moron. The affordable care act wasn’t passed via reconciliation. It was passed during the narrow window of the Democrats having 60 senators.


You’re not really good at remembering. I wouldn’t try this again.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
36444 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 1:01 am to
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You’re not really good at remembering. I wouldn’t try this again.

What exactly is wrong about my post?
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The affordable care act wasn’t passed via reconciliation. It was passed during the narrow window of the Democrats having 60 senators.



The ACA was not a reconciliation bill, and it was passed because Democrats had 60 Senators at the time.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
36444 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 1:02 am to
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Added $2.289 trillion to the national debt. Permanently extending expiring provisions would add $4.6 trillion to deficits over the 2025–2035 period

So you don’t want to cut taxes for people who actually pay them.

You want to hand money to people who don’t.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
60368 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:08 am to
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So you don’t want to cut taxes for people who actually pay them.


Our government is not in the financial position to cut taxes.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19384 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:38 am to
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Our government is not in the financial position to cut taxes.


Your deficit is based on CBO numbers which also calculate GDP growth at 1.8 percent. The last president who had a growth rate during their term of less than 2% was Herbert Hoover.

Concerned about the deficit, take out the cuts and watch the country go into recession.

It is tax cuts across the board upper and middle class. We have a progressive tax system, if the top 20% pay 80% of the taxes, when we have a tax cut, shouldnt the top 20% also get a cut? So its not a billionaire tax break as dems want to scream.

For the midterms we need to scream from the rooftops that dems as a whole are voting to tax the living shat out of you so they can continue to fund programs for illegals, pervert your kids in school and then mutilate them.

Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 3:23 am to
We need term limits in a big way.

Imagine a world where We The People can’t vote on term limits for these useless morons.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12842 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 3:49 am to
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Added $2.289 trillion to the national debt.

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GAO Report: Obamacare Adds $6.2 Trillion to Long-Term Deficit


Maybe we should scrap them both and start over.

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16862 posts
Posted on 7/2/25 at 4:04 am to
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guess this makes you a moron
during the legislative process for the Affordable Care Act (ACA), a maneuver was employed where the text of a House-passed bill, the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009 (H.R. 3590), was used as a vehicle to advance the ACA legislation in the Senate.

Here's how it generally worked:
Senate Democrats lacked the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster on their version of the health care reform bill.

To bypass this obstacle, Senate Democrats took the text of H.R. 3590, which had already passed the House and was pending in the Senate, and offered their ACA legislation as a comprehensive amendment that essentially replaced the entire text of the original bill.

This allowed the Senate to begin debate on the ACA text without needing to go through the usual process of bringing up a new bill, which would have been subject to a potential filibuster.

After the Senate passed its amended version of H.R. 3590, the bill was sent back to the House.

Due to the altered political landscape (specifically, the loss of a key Democratic Senate seat), Senate Democrats no longer had the 60 votes to overcome a filibuster if the House made further significant changes to the bill.

Therefore, the House ultimately agreed to pass the Senate's version of H.R. 3590 as-is to avoid sending it back to the Senate for another vote.

The Senate then used the reconciliation process (which requires only a simple majority vote) to pass a separate amendment bill that made certain changes to the version of H.R. 3590 that had been passed by the House.

These two pieces of legislation together, H.R. 3590 (as amended by the Senate and accepted by the House) and the reconciliation bill, collectively became known as the ACA or "Obamacare
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