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re: How do people get addicted to alcohol?

Posted on 1/1/22 at 10:58 am to
Posted by BeerThirty
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 10:58 am to
Drinking 14 beers a day doesn’t mean I’m an addict!
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 11:00 am to
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How do people get addicted to alcohol?


By trusting Dan Satterberg Republicans like Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 11:34 am to
I read a fascinating study on American Indians and alcoholism. It was a about 40 years ago but from memory it proved a genetic link toward the inability to stop drinking after you've had 1 or 2 (which is the Indian problem).
It was supposed to be cultural. But they followed some Indian kids who were adopted by white parents and had white siblings. As adults they became heavy drinkers. Their siblings (raised the same way) had no problem with social drinking and knowing when to stop.
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 11:40 am to
Well it's gotten alot easier in bidens America, walking outside and hearing about "woke culture " hearing how white people being the only race that is capable of rascim, being told that every race has a culture except for white people, seeing shite like the 2 black chick's at ASU posting a video of them harassing white students for having a police lives matter sticker on their laptop . Then they post a video complaining about the sticker, the guy having a chick Fila cup and wearing a bass pro shop cap, it's all racist. That's how people get addicted, to try to face this fricked up, to try to be white, to try to deal with the fact anything that say is racist, to cope with the fact that we have a senile pedophile president
Posted by GoldenGuy
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 11:48 am to
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I read a fascinating study on American Indians and alcoholism. It was a about 40 years ago but from memory it proved a genetic link toward the inability to stop drinking after you've had 1 or 2 (which is the Indian problem).
It was supposed to be cultural. But they followed some Indian kids who were adopted by white parents and had white siblings. As adults they became heavy drinkers. Their siblings (raised the same way) had no problem with social drinking and knowing when to stop.


The study I saw was on Asians and Native Americans: Both got drunk extremely quick (1-2 drinks), but the former metabolized it quickly while the latter did not.
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 11:49 am to
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Drinking 14 beers a day doesn’t mean I’m an addict!


Could you stop cold turkey?
Posted by cajunbama
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 12:16 pm to
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figured I might get real answers instead of something clinical.



Yeah, frick the science behind it, get anecdotal responses from a bunch of anonymous posters who failed junior high chemistry on what is primarily a sports site


The answer lies primarily in the dopamine system of the brain and genetics.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 12:20 pm to
Dang, I'm gong to pour a glass of wine right now. I like the way it tastes!
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 12:48 pm to
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The study I saw was on Asians and Native Americans: Both got drunk extremely quick (1-2 drinks), but the former metabolized it quickly while the latter did not.


Yeah, another anecdotal proof of genetics with Indians is the military. A very high percentage of Indians enter the military after HS but never advance and drop out after 4 years. Much of it due to alcoholism.
Posted by haroldoftherocks
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 1:02 pm to
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First, congrats. Nicotine may not be as destructive as booze but it was pretty hard to kick.

When you were drinking did you feel physically bad the next day or was there no physical deterrent? I get that there are plenty of other deterrents, but if you drink that much do you just adapt?


thanks i guess

when i was on it's on, drank heavily every day and very rarely had a hangover. sometimes felt tired or "fuzzy" but never missed a 6 am meeting. was running 20-50 miles a week (still do). when you're living that way, it's just how it is
This post was edited on 1/1/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27230 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:16 pm to
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Yeah, frick the science behind it,



This may be beyond your apparently binary brain, but it's possible to have read the scientific reasons for addiction and also solicit real-world opinions from people who've experienced that addiction.
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:18 pm to
It's a hell of a time in the moment. Everyone is trying to quit haha.Dont drink often but when I do I tend to have one or two too many. Guess it's why I know I can't drink often. You learn as you get older.
This post was edited on 1/1/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:19 pm to
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when i was on it's on, drank heavily every day and very rarely had a hangover. sometimes felt tired or "fuzzy" but never missed a 6 am meeting. was running 20-50 miles a week (still do). when you're living that way, it's just how it is


I guess you'd call that a functional alcoholic? To me that would be even harder to shake because you're still doing the things you need to do and that makes it much easier to rationalize the behavior. That's a tough thing to beat and it sounds like you have, or at least put it in remission. I got to a point where I didn't even think about nicotine or dip but I understand that with some addictions the temptation never really goes away. I hope it has for you.
Posted by TigerInGrayton
Member since Nov 2021
861 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:21 pm to
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It makes you feel good?

It also makes you feel much worse than how good it makes you feel.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:21 pm to
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I feel like I drink out of boredom. Idk. I don’t think I’m an alcoholic per se but I drink too often than I’d really should
this

And to the OPs point, who I assuming is pretty young, you learn to avoid hangovers (especially severe ones) by hydrating and avoiding sugary alcohols.

When you are young, you hear about elaborate drinks people enjoy. In the 40's, you tend toward pure spirits like bourbon and scotch.

Pure spirits tend to not give much of a hangover, so long as you pound water before bed, and not mix sugary stuff with it.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27230 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:26 pm to
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nd to the OPs point, who I assuming is pretty young,


I wish.

ETA Bourbon and scotch are about the only liquors I drink and I don't mix them with anything, but if I get stupid I still feel it the next day. 2 doubles is my limit 99% of the time and it's usually just 1.
This post was edited on 1/1/22 at 2:32 pm
Posted by haroldoftherocks
3rd stone from the sun
Member since Oct 2017
630 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:50 pm to
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I guess you'd call that a functional alcoholic? To me that would be even harder to shake because you're still doing the things you need to do and that makes it much easier to rationalize the behavior. That's a tough thing to beat and it sounds like you have, or at least put it in remission


yes, functional. for years. but not really - your associates recognize it. i thought i was getting away with it but they all knew. grateful they let me stay on. currently at the best opportunity of my life and it's with the folks that know about my struggles
Posted by haroldoftherocks
3rd stone from the sun
Member since Oct 2017
630 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:53 pm to
i hope we can keep this testimony private
Posted by MJQuick
Member since Dec 2021
137 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:53 pm to
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A hangover is just the symptoms of dehydration caused by alcohol being a diuretic


This is how
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:54 pm to
Modern pop psychology doesn't seem to understand that addiction is a physical thing rather than mental thing.

If it is a habit, one can stop and not have issues

If it is an addiction, which alcoholism is, there is actual physical withdrawal which can be deadly
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