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re: How is Russia losing this war?

Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:37 am to
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18598 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:37 am to
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With the size difference, they are struggling big time. HUGE losses in life and equipment. Barely taking a few cities. Pitiful.



Because their objective is odd.

Going back to old wars where your objective is to conquer, you don’t really care how much shite you destroy, because you will just build your new shite. You beat them in to submission.

Russia doesn’t want to conquer or destroy. There isn’t even an objective of removing a threat (Ukraine is no threat).

So they’ve made it tough on themselves to be successful.

This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 11:37 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19838 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:03 pm to
Nobody wins wars.
Posted by sheek
New Albany, OH
Member since Sep 2007
44138 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:06 pm to
Russia is a slow methodical military. They took major losses in WWII and ended up winning on the Eastern front because of their military doctrine. They took fricking Berlin and you won’t read about it our school’s history books because we always hated Russia.

You can’t view Russia’s military and compare it to the US’s shock & awe deliverable. If you do, you don’t understand Russian military doctrine. Taking out schools and hospitals is part of war in the Russian doctrine. It’s breaks the will of the people.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13898 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:22 pm to
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Says the butthurt Putin Youth. They're just not committing enough war crimes.

The Putin Youth are excitedly holding their breath waiting for a chem/bio attack



WTF are you talking about
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5021 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:37 pm to
Jesus doesn't love them as much.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3793 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:37 pm to
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Realistic people know that Russia could devastate Ukraine quickly. But I think it's a very realistic take that Russia is showing it can't win the war in the manner and at the rate it intended, which is going to leave it in a mess. Assuming the oft-reported Russian beliefs about Ukranian willingness to fight are close to accurate, Russia was screwed in the long term once that resistance materialized, regardless of if/when the cities fall. I suspect said resistance will wane over time, but I highly, highly doubt the cost of that is what Russia anticipated or is prepared to bear.


Why do you believe this?
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:45 am to
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Shockingly, Putin doesn't seem to mind not having McDonalds or Starbucks


I suppose he also doesn't mind looking like a loser, having protests in the streets, having to beg foreign countries for assistance.

When you need military equipment from China after 3 weeks and troops from countries like Kazakistan you din't plan this out well.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28204 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:34 pm to
Just had to bump.

Check out all the LOL's and defensiveness by the Putin Youth in this thread.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26931 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:38 pm to
Putin took Liurnia today. If he takes Caelid, I’m not sure what comes next.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96019 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:41 pm to
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Putin took Liurnia today. If he takes Caelid, I’m not sure what comes next.




The OT posted a pic of a blown up tank and are saying Putine is getting wrecked
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:45 pm to


Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26931 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28204 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:00 pm to
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The OT posted a pic of a blown up tank and are saying Putine is getting wrecked


And the mere suggestion that it LOOKED LIKED the Russian military was having logistical issues sent the fan boys into a tizzy
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19725 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:05 pm to
They aren’t.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35596 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:18 pm to
Is it weird that I’m not any sort of “fanboy” yet despite that point I still have the belief that things haven’t gone according to plan for the Russian force in Ukraine, perhaps even super close? Let me acknowledge, let us all acknowledge, that the information we glean from wherever must be taken in context of the extreme likelihood that said information has been manipulated in some way or is otherwise intended to achieve a particular narrative. That said, it doesn’t mean all of that information is useless, just that it must be properly taken into mind. Information such as however many Russian generals becoming casualties of the offensive. How precisely accurate that info is, who knows, but I sure can’t completely write it off. Point being surely things aren’t exactly going super well if you’re losing perhaps irreplaceable personnel of that caliber.

I guess I’m not completely sure what to think at this exact moment, but when I do come to more definitive conclusions it will be almost exclusively from my own thinking on the matter because I’m not convinced too many people have a solid grip on what’s going on.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72798 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:26 pm to
Russia’s army has sucked arse for a long time.

France-Britain 1853-56: kicked Russia’s arse
Japan 1904-05: kicked Russia’s arse
Central Powers 1914-1917: kicked Russia’s arse
Finland 1918: kicked Russia’s arse
Poland 1919-1920: kicked Russia’s arse
Estonia 1919-1920: kicked Russia’s arse
Latvia 1919-1920: kicked Russia’s arse
Japan: 1938-39: Russia finally won one
Finland 1940: kicked Russia’s arse (initially)
Axis 1941-43: came close to kicking Russia’s arse
Afghanistan 1979-89: Kicked Russia’s arse
Chechnya 1994-96: kicked Russia’s arse

If war was football, they’d be like 3-9 and their head coach would be reading the want ads.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:44 pm to
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Russia’s army has sucked arse for a long time.

France-Britain 1853-56: kicked Russia’s arse
Japan 1904-05: kicked Russia’s arse
Central Powers 1914-1917: kicked Russia’s arse
Finland 1918: kicked Russia’s arse
Poland 1919-1920: kicked Russia’s arse
Estonia 1919-1920: kicked Russia’s arse
Latvia 1919-1920: kicked Russia’s arse
Japan: 1938-39: Russia finally won one
Finland 1940: kicked Russia’s arse (initially)
Axis 1941-43: came close to kicking Russia’s arse
Afghanistan 1979-89: Kicked Russia’s arse
Chechnya 1994-96: kicked Russia’s arse

If war was football, they’d be like 3-9 and their head coach would be reading the want ads.




3-9 huh? Well they are playing a JUCO & controlling the game while running a ball control offense.

This is boa constrictor on a fluffy rabbit.

Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41822 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:48 pm to
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This is boa constrictor on a fluffy rabbit.


More like Putin tried to swallow a porcupine
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:59 pm to
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More like Putin tried to swallow a porcupine



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