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Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:27 am to
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:27 am to
Why do they risk defeat and pull it out of the jaws of victory? Talk about pissing the court off, but may not matter… but why risk it? Just proves the lawyer as corrupt as the Bidens….
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17137 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:27 am to
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Someone from the defense team, a lawyer later identified as Jessica Bengels from the law firm of Latham and Watkins, then contacted the clerk of the court -falsely claimed to be working with Theodore Kittila- and asked the clerk to remove the amicus filing. The clerk removed the filing.


That ALONE should warrant outright rejection of the plea and stiff sanctions for that garbage lawyer if not complete disbarment.

But we all know.. at the end of the day.. the ridiculously soft plea will be accepted and nothing else will be done. It’s just (D)ifferent.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:29 am to
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Interesting that they submitted Ms Bengel’s explanation as a Declaration rather than a sworn Affidavit.
Why? Both are under penalty of perjury and have the same legal effect under 28 U.S. Code §1746.

The only real benefit of an Affidavit over a Declaration is that the notary is supposed to confirm the identity of the person signing the document by seeing a government-issued identification card and recording information regarding that documentation. That does not really seem to be an issue here.
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 7:41 am
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13246 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:31 am to
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That's the kind of thing that should permanently disbar someone.


Remember when Hillary Clinton got kicked off the Nixon prosecution? This Jessica woman is probably in line to marry a horndog and become first tramp in 30 years.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:31 am to
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Why do they risk defeat and pull it out of the jaws of victory? Talk about pissing the court off, but may not matter… but why risk it? Just proves the lawyer as corrupt as the Bidens….
All it proves is that some people form opinions without obtaining all of the facts.
Posted by Crimson
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:32 am to
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:33 am to
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However, I’d really like to hear the clerk’s side of the story as well for comparison because it sounds like the clerk has a much different version.

This was going to be pretty much my exact response to the letter Hank posted.

This is usually settled with a phone call not a sanctions hearing, so I imagine the clerk has QUITE a different version of the "miscommunication".

Although, I will say the filing that was removed sounds like clown shoes on its own. What was THAT firm doing? This is shite you'd expect from me, not $1000/hour mega firms.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:36 am to
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I will say the filing that was removed sounds like clown shoes on its own. What was THAT firm doing?
Sounds like it was written by The Kraken or maybe Mike Lindell.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
6320 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:42 am to
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Why? Both are under penalty of perjury and have the same legal effect under 28 U.S. Code §1746.


True, but I just found it interesting that they chose to make it a declaration rather than a sworn/notarized affidavit which typically gives the appearance of being more legitimate, even though they have the same effect, weight, and potential consequences in UDSC.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:43 am to
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This is usually settled with a phone call not a sanctions hearing, so I imagine the clerk has QUITE a different version of the "miscommunication".
Read the Court’s Minute Entry. Looks to me like the court interviewed the assistant clerk and has prejudged the matter without hearing all of the evidence.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471824 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:49 am to
If you read the entire entry the Court was given the same reasoning that was in the letter, along with what seems like a thread (hoping that the clerk has signed an affidavit relating to the acquisitions). Then the court had its own discussions with clerk staff and put this as a hearing.

I don't know how it is in that district but the ECF clerks here are usually located elsewhere, so it's not like in state court where the clerk and judges are on more of a personal level.

The big thing I don't get is why not just file a motion to seal? Seems pretty straightforward. Why have a paralegal type contact ECF about what to do? Again, sounds like something I would do and not one of the top (and most expensive) firms in the US.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:50 am to
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Cruz is all over this on his podcast this AM. He has been laying it all out these past few episodes. Recommended listening whether you like Cruz or not.


I listen. Love Cruz’s views. Can’t stand his voice. Wish he had a little Walter Cronkite or James earl jones in him. Same for RFK.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:52 am to
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It's disgusting this shows the case is already treated as yesterday's news by the MSM.
Secondly, it shows the Dems will openly lie, cheat and steal to tilt the system in their favor and not receive any MSM coverage or any backlash. As we've seen, the hand wringing by GOP reps on Fox doesn't go anywhere.


but no way they cheat in elections!
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
18765 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:53 am to
All he does is whine. Cruz won't do crap.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:53 am to
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The big thing I don't get is why not just file a motion to seal? Seems pretty straightforward. Why have a paralegal type contact ECF about what to do? Again, sounds like something I would do and not one of the top (and most expensive) firms in the US.
As I read it, they were planning to file a motion to seal, but were concerned that the document was sitting in the file (and presumably available to the public) in its unredacted form in the interim.

They were wondering if there was some sort of temporary procedure in that Court (whether local rule, local local rule or informal procedure), to protect the information until such time as the formal motion to feel seal could be completed and filed.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:55 am to
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Read the Court’s Minute Entry. Looks to me like the court interviewed the assistant clerk and has prejudged the matter without hearing all of the evidence.



They have enough.

People get admissibility and evidence confused all the time.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
12472 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:55 am to
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Judge Noreika is a little angry

Pretense and kabuki theater.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47117 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:55 am to
Hunters lawyer "accidentally" impersonated a House legal officer to get evidence against him removed. It could happen to anyone.

-CNN
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62056 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:56 am to
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Pretense and kabuki theater.



Yep. Republicans do this all the time
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47117 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:58 am to
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AggieHank86


well, well, well.. look who's here to shill for the filth.
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