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Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:08 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:08 am to
He acted alone. The vulnerabilities in the security around Trump were almost certainly intentional and based on the contempt with which the Biden Administration holds Trump, as well as the DEI disease. Those weaknesses allowed an unsophisticated attacker to just waltz right in and get a clear shot. But he was acting alone.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13379 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:08 am to
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It’s painfully obvious, but it doesn’t fit the end narrative that many are forcing to be true in their heads. So they continue shoving square pegs in round holes with conspiracy theories.


Two questions:

1. Why was this prime, obvious firing position left unsecured?

2. How did this “kid” know it would be unguarded?

There are other troubling questions, but if you can’t answer these two, then gtfo.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19673 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:09 am to
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When she said that, that's when I came off the fence and came down solidly on the side of intent instead of incompetence.


Why wouldn’t this just be an idiot who was in way over their head trying to cover their arse? Similar to saying they never denied Trump additional resources….which would be easy to prove or disprove.

These people are used to lying like a bunch of kids without repercussions.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 11:12 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:10 am to
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Biden, Obama, Clinton and the cabal tried to assassinate Trump with the help of the CIA, Secret Service, FBI, etc


It’s the other way around, dude. And do you really think that Biden had any idea about this when he has no ideas whatsoever? If Biden knew about this, he would have let it slip before on the podium.

Plus things get worse for Biden and Kamala personally if Trump is assassinated since they would have then been facing off with Nikki Haley who would skunk them in November.

Now, some of Biden’s underlings have some motive since they’ve been committing hardcore felonies and will at best get a life imprisonment if Trump is back in office and especially if RFK is in his administration. That won’t happen with Nikki Haley. So Mayorkas, Garland, Blinken, and Sullivan have a motive to kill Trump and then after Biden loses the election to Haley, then they get cushy million dollar consulting jobs from the Deep State.
Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
2267 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:12 am to
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T Boy









Pretty sure the T is short for troll










Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14558 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:12 am to
I lean to Crooks being the shiny object and the real players behind the scenes did the dirty work. I still can't reconcile the trajectory paths of the bullets that hit Trump and the crowd. Two different trajectories/point of origin.

We will never know. This thing will go away like the Las Vegas Shooting.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:13 am to
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How did "they" get to this kid to radicalize him. Who were his contacts? What was that process?


He was in a fricking BlackRock commercial, so they *cough*CIA*cough* did some MKUltra shite to him and he went and did their bidding, but not before getting their ducks in a row.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:19 am to
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It’s painfully obvious, but it doesn’t fit the end narrative that many are forcing to be true in their heads. So they continue shoving square pegs in round holes with conspiracy theories.

There is more than enough inept and criminal things to discuss without jumping to conspiracies that are now devaluing real issues. Won’t stop though


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:20 am to
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What was the result of Oswald’s attempt vs crooks?


They both didn’t get a kill shot on their target?
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 11:21 am
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9513 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:20 am to
Fact: the US Secret Service has an annual budget of 2.9 billion dollars, and fields 3,200 special agents.

Fact: the US Secret Service has publicly commented that the securing the building that Crooks climbed on to take a shot at Trump was the responsibility of Local Law Enforcement.

Fact: Local Law Enforcement subsequently confirmed in a press release that their responsibility at the venue was traffic only, and that that was at the request of, and direction of, the US Secret Service.

Fact: the US Secret Service has not responded in any way to the local law enforcement claim. The media has made no public move - questioning, writing articles, demanding answers, the standard righteous indignation - to force the US Secret Service to square the facts above.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 11:32 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:21 am to
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the piece of evidence against inside job for me and multiple shooters etc...is (in my opinion) if it was deep state or whatever trump wouldn't have left that stage alive first messed up shot or not....thats what holds me back a little. I think I want to think it was some big coo...still could be...I want answers DAMNIT


It makes sense if it’s MKUltra.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:24 am to
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You have it backwards, it much behooves the filth for Trump to believe there is a conspiracy to kill him amongst the highest levels of government.


Why didn’t they give RFK Secret Service Protection despite the fact that he had three attempts on his life in the past year and Presidential candidates explicitly get SS Protection because his father was assassinated? There can only be two reasons:

A) An attempt to bankrupt him in security fees forcing him to drop out.
B) So he would have the same fate as his father and uncle.

Either way it is pure evil. So yes, this government wants Trump dead as well as RFK.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9513 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:27 am to
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The simple explanation is the most likely.





Really? Then why when dozens upon dozens of people are screaming for two minutes and one second that “He’s on the roof and he’s got a gun” did the Secret Service do nothing?

How did the Secret Service not notice him flying his drone at least twice around the perimeter?

Is a four degree sloped roof on a single story building that dangerous for them as members of the Secret Service when I think you can relatively safely leave a toddler up there? Too bad the counter snipers were on a 14 degree roof.

There were three snipers inside the building, which what are they going to snipe inside a building? A fricking fly? How come they didn’t hear him on top of a metallic roof?

Did no one notice him climbing a building?

Why they stop him an hour in advance when he had a rangefinder aimed at the podium?

I’m sorry, you’re a fricking retard if you think it’s as simple as just a single shooter.


You’re going around and around and around. The simplest explanation is that he’s a fricking retard
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:28 am to
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since the SS Director said it was too sloped and a decision was made to not cover it for a falling risk. Really? The other SS snipers were on similar roofs w/ slope.


No the roof where the SS snipers were had a ten degree higher slope than the roof Crooks shot from. So that alone after that blatant lie you expect me to blindly take these people’s word for it? You have to be a fricking tard to believe that.
Posted by Nikki_T
Newport Beach
Member since Feb 2021
711 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:32 am to
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I still can't reconcile the trajectory paths of the bullets that hit Trump and the crowd. Two different trajectories/point of origin.



One theory is a ricochet.



Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9513 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:34 am to
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since the SS Director said it was too sloped and a decision was made to not cover it for a falling risk. Really? The other SS snipers were on similar roofs w/ slope.


No the roof where the SS snipers were had a ten degree higher slope than the roof Crooks shot from. So that alone after that blatant lie you expect me to blindly take these people’s word for it? You have to be a fricking tard to believe that.


Have you heard the media question her on that position? Apparently the media has accepted that position - sloppy roof dangerous - as fact.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5493 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:36 am to
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I don’t know what to think. Crooks acted alone vs Didnt

At this time, there's no reason to think that this was anything more than a security lapse that allowed a 20-year-old nutcase to take a few shots at a presidential candidate. The eagerness of people (even in 2024) to entertain baseless conspiracy theories and acts of divine intervention demonstrates why we have so many religions.

People don't want to believe the mundane. There's no intrigue or excitement to it.
This post was edited on 7/21/24 at 11:39 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:37 am to
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All I know is no real organization would involve this kid in any real plot. People love drama so they make it up.


Come the frick on, Roger. You’re smarter than this.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:44 am to
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Have you heard the media question her on that position? Apparently the media has accepted that position - sloppy roof dangerous - as fact.


Four degrees, which is roughly the same slope as a sidewalk when it meets the crosswalk. What an act of heroism which hundreds of millions of people do each and every day.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 11:46 am to
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At this time, there's no reason to think that this was anything more than a security lapse that allowed a 20-year-old nutcase to take a few shots at a presidential candidate. The eagerness of people (even in 2024) to entertain baseless conspiracy theories and acts of divine intervention demonstrates why we have so many religions.

People don't want to believe the mundane. There's no intrigue or excitement to it.


So being on a four degree slope on a one story building is a life threatening situation for the Secret Service, whose job it is for their lives to be taken for the President. You could fall off that roof and probably not break a leg, so way too high of a risk for these people.

You’re a retard if you believe this.
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