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re: If Bush won reelection in '92, would America be better off today?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:16 am to Dreams 94
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:16 am to Dreams 94
Interesting question. I quite loathe Bush, as he guided the GOP in a terrible, globalist direction that led to decades of feckless RINO-ism, which sabotaged every potential chance of turning things back around, and which lingers strongly in the Party to this day. On the other hand, Clinton really greased the skids, with his sleaze and Hillary's corruption, normalizing and then cultivating a massive cultural rot onto the country that continued growing like a cancer to the putrid depths we have now.
So, it's a pretty miserable choice. If I had to roll the dice, I'd probably go with Bush over Clinton, because I think the kind of damage Bush caused could have been more easily rectified once he was gone. Clinton's footprint and the way it altered and noxiously lowered the standards in such large swaths of the political-cultural landscape wasn't something that could easily been reversed.
Would have VASTLY been better to have had Buchanan or Perot in the presidency back then. Can never know for sure, but I just can't see the country having quite succumbed to the current vomitous, irredeemable cesspool of a nation that we have now.
So, it's a pretty miserable choice. If I had to roll the dice, I'd probably go with Bush over Clinton, because I think the kind of damage Bush caused could have been more easily rectified once he was gone. Clinton's footprint and the way it altered and noxiously lowered the standards in such large swaths of the political-cultural landscape wasn't something that could easily been reversed.
Would have VASTLY been better to have had Buchanan or Perot in the presidency back then. Can never know for sure, but I just can't see the country having quite succumbed to the current vomitous, irredeemable cesspool of a nation that we have now.
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:16 am to squid_hunt
Why would I want a bush or Clinton in the White House?
Perot was a civilian business man. Dummy.
Perot was a civilian business man. Dummy.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:40 am to Dreams 94
quote:Not really, considering. he lost because he caved to Democrats.
If Bush won reelection in '92, would America be better off today?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 12:41 am to Rhino5
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Perot was a civilian business man. Dummy.
Who only got in the race to steal votes.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:32 am to squid_hunt
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nly got in the race to steal votes.
obvious then - axiomatic today
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:04 am to BoudinChicot
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Bushes and Clintons are the same species my friend.
As time has gone on, it has been clearer and clearer. We'd be in literally the EXACT same position we are today and there's no doubt in my mind.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:16 am to blueboy
I've never seen any one claim Sally was a false story.
DNA evidence confirmed it.
DNA evidence confirmed it.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:27 am to Toomer Deplorable
No.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:29 am to cajunangelle
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William Colby was assassinated
Colby died 20 years after he left the CIA.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:23 am to Napoleon
quote:No, it didn't. It showed that it was one of 24 Jefferson men. Private letters between the family members confirm that it was Jefferson's nephew, not Jefferson. The accusation against Jefferson stems from a mud slinging campaign during one of his elections.
I've never seen any one claim Sally was a false story.
DNA evidence confirmed it.
The thing that should have tipped you off was that it was Bill Clinton's personal historians fueling this shite.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/22/22 at 10:45 am to blueboy
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For lagniappe, Bubba defamed Thomas Jefferson with the false Sally Hemmings narrative, just to make himself look better during the Lewinsky scandal
Right. How easily forgotten that BS was. Mockingbird Media did their job, didn't they?
Underrated horsesh*t move by Poppy's "son", Bubba.
My other recollection of that campaign: Ross Perot was climbing fast in the polls at about 21%. THEN suddenly came threats to his daughter and himself (I had a good friend who worked on his campaign -- soon after said it was like a pin popped the balloon.)
1992 was the last time America had their chance to stop the Two-Party Charade.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 10:47 am to Napoleon
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I've never seen any one claim Sally was a false story.
DNA evidence confirmed it.
You were victimized by two concurrent lies.
(I don't blame you -- the entire public at large was bamboozled by the Mockingbird Media machine.)
Posted on 12/22/22 at 10:53 am to squid_hunt
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Perot was a civilian business man. Dummy.
Who only got in the race to steal votes.
Part of me also believe this at the time. But then I wised up later in the campaign when it became obvious that Poppy was sandbagging his own campaign, and The Fix was in. (much like McCain in 2008.)
Perot didn't need to run for Prez OR "steal votes" when the Two-Party system was already a charade.
Ross Perot ran out of sincere concern and belief that he could help fix America (and that normal Americans could actually run for President -- without having their lives threatened for doing so.)
Posted on 12/22/22 at 11:47 am to Dreams 94
america would've been better off today had Hillary'a dad pulled out.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:16 pm to blueboy
Now I want to look into more. That said Jefferson was a great man and I hate when we try and look at historical figures with modern lenses.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:15 pm to JackieTreehorn
quote:Quite likely but 3rd party candidates screw it up for the loser; in this case Bush. Not sure what Bush would have done but Perot is the reason we had Clinton. They world would be a better place had Hillary never had the chance that was afforded her as a result of Slick Willie becoming President. I'm sure Slick would have run again in 96 and probably won as I don't know who the Repubs would have put up once Bush would have finished his 2nd term. Don't think it would have been W as we would have had Bush fatigue. But, who knows.
We would be better if the great Ross Perot had somehow won.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:30 pm to ChineseBandit58
Billy Bob was selected to be president years before he ever ran. No way that white trash sexual predator could have been elected without the Deep State behind him.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:54 pm to Wally Sparks
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No.
Yes.
Arguing over whether the country would be better off if Bush had beaten Clinton is akin to arguing over how to best boil a frog, slowly or rapidly.
It may make for intriguing parlor talk but it matters not to the frog.
The true winner of the Cold War was the American Deep State and the real loser was the prospect of continued Liberty in this nation.
The Crimes of Mena Arkansas
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MENA, Ark. -- What do Bill Clinton and Oliver North have in common, along with the Arkansas State Police and the Central Intelligence Agency? All probably wish they had never heard of Mena.
President Clinton was asked at his Oct. 7 press conference about Mena, a small town and airport in the wilds of Western Arkansas. Sarah McClendon, a longtime Washington curmudgeon renowned for her off-the-wall questions, wove a query around the charge that a base in Mena was "set up by Oliver North and the CIA" in the 1980s and used to "bring in planeload after planeload of cocaine" for sale in the U.S., with the profits then used to buy weapons for the Contras. Was he told as Arkansas governor? she asked.
"No," the president replied, "they didn't tell me anything about it." The alleged events "were primarily a matter for federal jurisdiction. The state really had next to nothing to do with it. The local prosecutor did conduct an investigation based on what was in the jurisdiction of state law. The rest of it was under the jurisdiction of the United States Attorneys who were appointed successively by previous administrations. We had nothing -- zero -- to do with it."
It was Mr. Clinton's lengthiest remark on the murky affair since it surfaced nearly a decade ago, in the middle of his long tenure as governor of Arkansas. And while the president may be correct to suggest that Mena is an even bigger problem for previous Republican administrations, he was wrong on just about every other count. The state of Arkansas had plenty to do with Mena, and Mr. Clinton left many unanswered questions behind when he moved to Washington.
Anyone who thinks that Mena is not serious should speak to William Duncan, a former Internal Revenue Service investigator who, together with Arkansas State Police Investigator Russell Welch, has fought a bitter 10-year battle to bring the matter to light. They pinned their hopes on nine separate state and federal probes. All failed.
"The Mena investigations were never supposed to see the light of day," says Mr. Duncan, now an investigator with the Medicaid Fraud Division of the office of Arkansas Attorney General Winston Bryant. "Investigations were interfered with and covered up, and the justice system was subverted."
The mysteries of Mena, detailed on this page on June 29, center on the activities of a drug-smuggler-turned-informant named Adler Berriman "Barry" Seal. Mr. Seal began operating at Mena Intermountain Regional Airport in 1981. At the height of his career, according to Mr. Welch, Mr. Seal was importing as much as 1,000 pounds of cocaine a month.
By 1984, Mr. Seal was an informant for the Drug Enforcement Agency and flew at least one sting operation to Nicaragua for the CIA, a mission known to have drawn the attention of Mr. North. By 1986, Mr. Seal was dead, gunned down by Colombian hitmen in Baton Rouge, La. Eight months after Mr. Seal's murder, his cargo plane, which had been based at Mena, was shot down over Nicaragua with Eugene Hasenfus and a load of Contra supplies aboard.....
Read More: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB920421328276427000
Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:00 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Billy Bob was selected to be president years before he ever ran. No way that white trash sexual predator could have been elected without the Deep State behind him.
Exactly.
Someone in the CIA put in a good word for both the Clintons after viewing their utter amorality and ambition first hand.
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