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re: Impressive support for Intelligent Design
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:23 pm to TigerAxeOK
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:23 pm to TigerAxeOK
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And define "seven days"
A useful literary device.
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life didn't just appear by accident. You should be thankful for the existence given to us, no matter how short and insignificant. It's still ours.
Trillions of light-years worth of universal mapping and not one single hint that "life as we know it" exists anywhere other than on this rock. Flawed and imperfect as the inhabitants of this world may be, we are infinitely unique and our existence is truly miraculous.
Accident/no accident - I don’t even know if this is a meaningful distinction as it implies separate agency. But I really don’t disagree with much of what you posted here.
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:41 pm to RebelExpress38
Listen, im a practicing catholic but these 'its soo complex' arguments are just not IT.
Is the human brain and its ability to form human consciousness an astounding level of complexity and biological beauty that surpasses anything else in our known universe (with the exception maybe being the universe itself)? Absolutely.
But does it 'simply' being as complex as it is prove intelligent design? I dont think so. Partially due to the fact that we've not nailed down what 'intelligent design' means, specifically.
In context of the harvard study cited here, I have a feeling once Quantum computing becomes more accessible, it will allow mapping and understanding the human brain in a way never before realized. It may even answer the question of how trilions of synapses come together to produce the Human Mind.
Side note, I think the increasing weight put to the 'universe is a simulation' theory (if proven true) may throw a wrench into the argument on both sides.
Is the human brain and its ability to form human consciousness an astounding level of complexity and biological beauty that surpasses anything else in our known universe (with the exception maybe being the universe itself)? Absolutely.
But does it 'simply' being as complex as it is prove intelligent design? I dont think so. Partially due to the fact that we've not nailed down what 'intelligent design' means, specifically.
In context of the harvard study cited here, I have a feeling once Quantum computing becomes more accessible, it will allow mapping and understanding the human brain in a way never before realized. It may even answer the question of how trilions of synapses come together to produce the Human Mind.
Side note, I think the increasing weight put to the 'universe is a simulation' theory (if proven true) may throw a wrench into the argument on both sides.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:49 pm to Indefatigable
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And retold many many times before being recorded and then translated to hell and back across multiple variants of several languages, at that.
How did the translations hold up from the Dead Sea scrolls compared to what they are now? Those 2000 year old scrolls
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:53 pm to RebelExpress38
And yet we breath and eat through the same tube, allowing thousands of children to choke every year.
Cool design!
Cool design!
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:57 pm to RebelExpress38
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I guess we are just supposed to have faith that all of this evolved because lightning struck some soup and then randomly mutated into this!
No, strawmanning your opposition's stance is much more effective.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:02 pm to Bass Tiger
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I'm not sure how reliable someone's critical thinking abilities are if they still believe complex life was birthed from a single cell organism in a primordial soup somewhere on earth 4 billion years ago.
Pretty damn reliable. The vast majority of the scientific community has rejected creationism and creationism in a shitty wig (intelligent design) for the last half century at least.
If you don’t think their critical thinking abilities are up to snuff feel free to not use computers/get off the internet/etc.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:05 pm to Mo Jeaux
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How is this support for intelligent design?
"I'm confused by complex thing so God."
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:09 pm to RebelExpress38
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I guess we are just supposed to have faith that all of this evolved because lightning struck some soup and then randomly mutated into this!
For me, that is easier to believe than that there was...nothing. And then, suddenly, there was...something.
Atheists are so superstitious.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:42 pm to Indefatigable
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There’s no mention of any other hominids at all in the Bible. And yet they existed before humans and coexisted with humans, up to and including breeding. On which day were they created?
Genesis 6:4 states: "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."
The term "giants" in this verse refers to the Nephilim, described as mighty men and men of renown.
The passage suggests these beings existed both before and after the time of Noah, indicating their presence was not limited to a single era.
The origin of the Nephilim is linked to the union between the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men," though interpretations vary:
Some view the "sons of God" as fallen angels who mated with human women, producing giant offspring.
Others interpret them as godly men (descendants of Seth) marrying ungodly women (descendants of Cain), resulting in powerful, corrupt individuals.
Evidence of giants persists in later biblical accounts, such as the spies' report in Numbers 13:33, where they encountered the Anakim—descendants of giants—living in Canaan.
The Nephilim are also mentioned in connection with other giant groups, like the Zamzummim in the land of Ammon (Genesis 19:38).
Despite the flood, which destroyed all life on earth except Noah’s family, the presence of giants afterward suggests either:
The Nephilim were not fully wiped out, or
New generations of giants arose independently, possibly through natural human variation or other means.
Ultimately, the Bible does not provide a definitive explanation for their origin, leaving room for theological interpretation. The key point is that giants were present during pivotal moments in biblical history—before the flood, during the conquest of Canaan, and even in David’s time (1 Samuel 17:4–7).
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:47 pm to CoachFranWasHere
That’s great and all, but other human species were not necessarily “giants” compared to us. In fact, many others generally were shorter.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:49 pm to CoachFranWasHere
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The key point is that giants were present during pivotal moments in biblical history
Did they all have dissolvable skeletons or something? Where are they and why do we have zero evidence of their presence? We have tons of archaeological and anthropological evidence from that time period.
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even in David’s time
Goliath was 6’6, not a giant.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:52 pm to Decatur
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Decatur
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Versus someone snapping their fingers and everything appeared in seven days ?
But you probably believe in the big bang. You believe that everything was created in an instant and it is still expanding.
But apparently you cant fathom an eternal being "snapping their fingers" being able to do that same thing.
A question for the people who believe in the big bang, where did the raw material come from? Science says that matter can be changed but not destroyed, with the exception of a nuclear reaction where the matter is converted into energy.
I sincerely pray for your soul.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:53 pm to John somers
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For me, that is easier to believe than that there was...nothing. And then, suddenly, there was...something.
Who are you quoting?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:56 pm to alphaandomega
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But you probably believe in the big bang. You believe that everything was created in an instant and it is still expanding.
The big bang starts with the singularity. There was already a something there. So not everything was created in an instant with the big bang, its starting with everything already existing. This is so elementary...
But please keep speaking on insanely deep topics when you can't even scratch the surface, its hilarious.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:56 pm to Boodis Man
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Not the desert god described in the Bible (the one that gets jealous and allows genocide, rape , slavery etc) . Thats for damn sure
Still didn't answer the question. Seems like you have a lot of anger.
What made the star?
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:02 pm to Mo Jeaux
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That’s great and all, but other human species were not necessarily “giants” compared to us. In fact, many others generally were shorter.
...
Maybe we're the Nephilim...
*X Files Music*
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:34 pm to Mo Jeaux
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That’s great and all, but other human species were not necessarily “giants” compared to us. In fact, many others generally were shorter.
Ehh, sure. He said there weren't any other hominids mentioned. I showed that something other than 'man', referred to as 'giants' is mentioned.
Maybe that isn't enough for him, but I won't try to convince him.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:34 pm to Decatur
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Versus someone snapping their fingers and everything appeared in seven days ?
Nice try. That is a parable dumb arse. If you're going to be condescending on a religion, be educated in that religion first.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:36 pm to back9Tiger
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Nice try. That is a parable dumb arse. If you're going to be condescending on a religion, be educated in that religion first.
Wait, what is a parable? The story of creation in Genesis? Because there are others in this thread who vehemently disagree and believe that it’s the literal truth.
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:39 pm to dafif
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Why is every dumb liberal on this thread against creation?? Amazing to think about that
Not all, but most people who scoff at a Creator vs a natural process that somehow resulted in complex life is their obstinate rejection of a higher authority, particularly a higher moral authority. All humans are arrogant to varying degrees, the ones who are unable to control their arrogance are generally agnostic/atheist......that's my life's experience.
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