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re: Indian Reservations
Posted on 8/2/25 at 9:09 pm to AubieinNC2009
Posted on 8/2/25 at 9:09 pm to AubieinNC2009
quote:You didn't comprehend. The tribe lost, but it didn't stop them from pulling that defense. My point is, their should only be one rule of law. The whole "nation inside a nation" shite needs to go away.
That is not sovereignty that is a court not ruling properly. Public Law 280 should have kept it in state court. There are cases headed to the Supreme Court about their "sovereignty" and what it actually entails. There is a case from out west (I think MT) were a game warden went on tribal land to arrest illegal hunting as its federal land.
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Posted on 8/2/25 at 9:13 pm to greygoose
gotcha greygoose? I thought you meant they got it moved into tribal courts.
I agree that there should not be "nations inside a nation"
I agree that there should not be "nations inside a nation"
Posted on 8/2/25 at 9:27 pm to AubieinNC2009
quote:I was in Vegas a few years ago. Went to the cage to cash out a large sum. They gave me some run around about shift change, blah blah blah. They tried to tell me to come back later. t All I had to say was "Do I need to call the Nevada Gaming Commission"? Let's just say, that's the last this that cage manager wanted to happen. If it was a Indian casino, I would have been at their mercy. I keep that in mind when I go to those places. Might as well be in a foreign country as far as the laws go. I do know where I stand when I step on their property, but it still doesn't sit right with me that they are afforded all my rights, but I get none of theirs.
gotcha greygoose? I thought you meant they got it moved into tribal courts.
I agree that there should not be "nations inside a nation"
Posted on 8/2/25 at 9:55 pm to burger bearcat
Retards unite!
Posted on 8/2/25 at 10:02 pm to burger bearcat
If you have ever been on a reservation you’d know it’s not a bed of roses.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 10:03 pm to burger bearcat
You must have just lost big at the casino. Lighten up Francis.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 10:20 pm to burger bearcat
We really F’d them over
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Some land and some tax breaks ain’t a bad thing for them
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YouTube link , if you have the time , good watch
Some land and some tax breaks ain’t a bad thing for them
Posted on 8/2/25 at 10:21 pm to goblrhntr
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I've had many mid-day breaks from trout fishing at the Tellico Beach drive in, but thats been 40+ years ago, not sure if it's still there
The Drive in is still there to my knowledge. We trout fish up and down Citico creek a bit north of the drive in as the crow flies. There's a small dam up Citico Creek road right after the National forest boundaries begin. It's a little honey hole where the trout congregate above the dam that the locals put us onto years ago. It took me almost 10 years before I got close enough with an old Nam vet & his wife who live about a stones throw away from the boundary of the national forest before they trusted me enough to share the spot. It's one of my favorite places to go. The scenery is hard to beat:
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 10:25 pm to TigerBait1971
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Native Americans aren't really high on my list of things that desperately need addressing in this country right now.
Let's make George Floyd statues...
But as to the rez... you made a deal as a country. You keep the deal. This ain't no every 4 years sign an eo. Bs.
Snote- NDN's from the rez won congressional medals of honor in wwi and wwii. Their warrior ethics to the country was beyond honorable.
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 11:07 pm to evil cockroach
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We really F’d them over
We nothing, my frickers got here in 1910 from Italy, worked their asses off, and had nothing to do with the Indian or the African dilemma.
Those folks were either conquered or captured and so sorry but welcome to Human civilization. Take it back if you want it or fit the frick into the best country ever.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 11:32 pm to greygoose
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I've got to say, I frequent the local Creek indian casino from time to time. The next time I see an employee there that looks remotely Native American, will be the first.
Most people claiming Native American in the southeast are like 1/2000 and look as white as Columbus. Oklahomans are very bad about it.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 11:44 pm to greygoose
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My point is, their should only be one rule of law. The whole "nation inside a nation" shite needs to go away.
I tend to agree.
People who think Indian reservations were the result of a treaty need to educate themselves on why they were created and how.
They were created basically to sequester the Indians to make it easier for the US government to deal with them, and they were created by Congressional action in 1851, not in a voluntary treaty between sovereign nations.
Indians lost their land because they weren't strong enough (and united enough) militarily to keep it, and while I wish the whole world operated in harmony with each other under the direction of Our Lord Jesus Christ, that simply isn't possible in this present age. In our fallen world we exist as pretty much perpetually warring nation-states, and so did the Indians.
They conquered and enslaved and raped and pillaged and murdered and took each other's land and displaced each other for who knows how long before the Europeans got here. Just like the indigenous people did in Africa and India before the Europeans got there.
Our ancestors didn't do anything different than their ancestors except one thing. Ours were so much more technologically advanced and consequently they were so much better at the conquering game than the Indians that instead of conquering and enslaving and raping and pillaging one tribe, they did it to all the tribes that were here.
So goes history.
We're 175 years removed from the creation of those reservations now and the purpose of the original congressional act has long become obsolete at this point.
At this point allowing the degree of sovereignty that the reservations allow is not a net postive for the US IMO.
Posted on 8/3/25 at 2:20 am to wackatimesthree
The Seminoles own Hard Rock International. Each tribal member gets approximately 128K per year. Children's share sits in escrow til they are 18..............now thats some cash on your 18th.
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