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Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by immobileman
nowhere in particular
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:01 pm to
Let's look at the lines at Trump rallies compared to everyone else, no comparison. Your Ron is losing.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27297 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:05 pm to
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Even my friends who were pro-Ron! are like, “yeah, fine, you were right.” Which they’re used to


Who TF is Chris Paul?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156624 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:06 pm to
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Your Ron is losing.


And Trump will lose the general.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471152 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Our elections are not auditable

You will never be able to properly audit elections until you remove anonymity from elections. Let me know when that's popular enough to succeed

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Only to people that look at fraud in terms of evidence, and not from a standpoint of undetected risk (which is the standard).

Which election standard is that?

Or are you trying to apply standards from a different field to compare apples to USB drives?

Evidence is what matters. You can know all the stuff you want to believe, but it's what you can prove, with evidence, that counts.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128798 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Let's look at the lines at Trump rallies compared to everyone else, no comparison. Your Ron is losing.


Ok cool.

I still think he would make a much better President.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471152 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Your Ron is losing.

I have publicly not supported RDS for some time.

...he still has a better chance in the general than Trump.

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Let's look at the lines at Trump rallies compared to everyone else, no comparison.

Lines and land vote
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127277 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:20 pm to
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You will never be able to properly audit elections until you remove anonymity from elections.


Willful stupidity.

There’s all sorts of audits that could be done that no one is willing to do.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14360 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 2:21 pm to
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Who TF is Chris Paul?




It's a Trump fan account that just trolls DeSantis supporters with the same gif over and over
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15475 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 3:41 pm to
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‘Of course he lost’:

Ron DeSantis rejects Trump’s 2020 election claims

the Florida governor made his most definitive comments that Trump did not win in 2020.

“Joe Biden’s the president,” he said.

Aug. 6, 2023

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/-of-course-he-lost-ron-desantis-rejects-trump-s-2020-election-claims-190139973789


The telling part is here.

AUGUST 08, 2022
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“His entire political lens is a calculation of what it means for overtaking Trump,” said David Jolly, the former Florida Republican congressman who is now helping start a third political party.
“His previous eschewing of 2020 election fraud is less about personal conviction and more about not strengthening Trump.
Similarly, his rallying with Lake, Mastriano, and others is about elevating his national profile on par with Trump — demonstrating his strength as a formidable heir to the GOP presidential nomination.”


He's a fake, lying politician.

Just like the Clintons.

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When asked by reporters whether the last presidential election was rigged, DeSantis has instead highlighted changes to election laws he has supported or simply changed the topic.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/17/desantis-wont-say-if-2020-was-rigged-but-hes-campaigning-for-republicans-who-do-00052266
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471152 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 3:45 pm to
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Willful stupidity.

There’s all sorts of audits that could be done that no one is willing to do.

Let me be more clear.

We will never be able to properly audit elections to the satisfaction of the Patriot narrative, until you remove anonymity from elections.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 4:14 pm to
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I wonder what Patriots really have in the magazine other than whataboutism and election fraud claims.

much more than the election fraud claims of 2004 and 2016, only patriots KNOW it was fraud? hardly -

even as much as YOU know 2020 was fraud
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54920 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 4:19 pm to
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Imagine believing Joe Biden got 81 million legitimate votes. What a way for Rob to cap off the corniest most poorly run presidential campaign in the modern era.


There's an increasing number of PT posters who believe Biden is a legitimately elected president.....it's getting fricking weird.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23078 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 4:42 pm to
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You will never be able to properly audit elections until you remove anonymity from elections. Let me know when that's popular enough to succeed


That’s not the only thing holding back the ability to audit elections. Lists of people eligible to vote are not assessed for accuracy. In many states there was never a verification that the vote originated from the registered voter. Source documents are often not even preserved.

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Which election standard is that?


I’m referring to auditing standards.

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Or are you trying to apply standards from a different field to compare apples to USB drives?


They are the standards that provide assurance to the public on published results and their related control systems. They would be the ones employed, if our elections were actually audited. The federal government helped establish them. There is an entire profession devoted to providing assurance of control systems.

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Evidence is what matters. You can know all the stuff you want to believe, but it's what you can prove, with evidence, that counts.


When it comes to providing reasonable assurance that fraud did not effect the results, you are wrong. Much of the fraud being alleged cannot be proven, because there would be no evidence. That’s the problem, the results are not capable of being audited, not just audited poorly.

This is not a criminal case, this is about the public having confidence in the results. They don’t. That’s a problem.

Like I said, you either care about this, or you don’t

ETA: none of this is to stay that actual evidence wouldn’t be the most persuasive means of proving fraud
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 7:32 pm
Posted by ChumLeeVol
Memphis
Member since Jul 2023
318 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 6:22 pm to
Nailed it
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