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Posted on 4/10/21 at 9:16 pm to mmcgrath
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The chipset on the mother board is specifically designed to not connect to the internet.
I call bullshite. If traffic is allowed out to the internet over the network then this can get on the internet. Typically when you provision your network with an mvno like telit they will ask if you want to allow your sims access to the internet. You can choose either way. Just because it isn’t on the internet doesn’t mean anything. Anyone with any sense would t want them out on the internet with a public static ip address. The apn used for the SIM card would be provisioned to accept a private static ip address and then whoever would setup a vpn between telit and their data center to be able to reach the devices or have the devices send data out to some device or server ready to capture it.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 4/10/21 at 9:26 pm to GhostOfFreedom
The democrats stole this last Presidential election. We know they stole it, they know they stole it.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 9:48 pm to CelticDog
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lets say its true that such modem chips exist.
IF?? LOL!
THE EXACT MODEL FROM THE TELIT WEBSITE
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what use could be made with it?
It is just like you friggin phone when looking at this site.
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be specific
Specifically, it's connected to the internet just like your phone is... 24/7 .. it is connected
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:09 pm to mmcgrath
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The chipset on the mother board is specifically designed to not connect to the internet. The report said as much.
Telit disagrees with you:
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Telit, a global enabler of the Internet of Things (IoT), today announced five new LTE IoT modules, one category 4 (CAT-4) and four category 1 (CAT-1), the new IoT focused standard, that includes three North American and one European models. These new LTE products expand the 4G portfolio led by the LE866-SV1, launched as the industry’s smallest dual-band, single-mode LTE CAT-1 offering at 15x25mm. Developed for use with North American wireless network carriers, the LE866-SV1, LE910-SV1, LE910-NA1, and the LE910-EU1 for Europe all leverage existing LTE technology aligned with carriers’ plans to support the CAT-1 standard in their respective markets. The LE910-SV V2 is a carrier-approved single mode CAT-4 high bandwidth module introduced for applications requiring high-speed data without the need for fallback to 3 or 2G. Customer designs based on these modules can be easily migrated to CAT-0/M when that standard becomes available and certified by operators. Commercial availability of the CAT-1 products is planned for early 2016, in alignment with the roll out service by carriers.
Three of the CAT-1 and the CAT-4 LTE IoT modules will be available in the popular xE910 form factor, Telit’s most versatile and comprehensive product family and the other in the xE866 which also includes 2 and 3G drop-in compatible variants. All developed on the company’s tradition of providing broad pin-to-pin compatibility between IoT modules. The xE910 family is the only uniform form factors in the market to include the full range of cellular technologies (GPRS, UMTS, HSPA, CDMA and LTE CAT-x) in a wide variety of regional band configurations and operator certifications. Adding CAT-1 to the xE910 family roadmap paves the way for developers and integrators to leverage not only the standard’s current capabilities but also the evolution of technologies that enhance LTE communication such as MTC, IPv6, and VoLTE (Voice-Over-LTE – LE910 only).
“The wait is over for large scale adoption of LTE for IoT. North American MNOs have taken a leadership role rolling out CAT-1 with Europe right in sequence and Telit will be ready when they launch CAT-1 LTE service for IoT. As the industry leader with the widest portfolio in IoT modules including LTE sub-compact and ultra-compact form factors plus data cards
LINK
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:14 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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Telit LE910-SV1 LTE CAT-1 LGA module is members of Telit’s flagship xE910 module family delivering 4G radio access technology in the 28.2 x 28.2 x 2.2 mm family form factor .
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:25 pm to diat150
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The chipset on the mother board is specifically designed to not connect to the internet.
I call bull shite. If traffic is allowed out to the internet over the network then this can get on the internet
Correct. That device has 1 job. That job is to connect a device to the internet via cellular towers.
There would be ZERO reason to have it in the machines because it's not designed to do anything other than that!
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:35 pm to GodnCountry
Truth. What's the point in have that module in the system. It has one purpose. It's a data modem that works on cell towers
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:51 pm to GodnCountry
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Correct. That device has 1 job. That job is to connect a device to the internet via cellular towers.
Again, typically you wouldnt want these types of things going out to the internet at all. They don’t need to go to the internet, they just need to vpn back to wherever so that whoever need access can get to them.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:54 pm to diat150
Yes, in Taiwan and Germany.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:55 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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We know and they know that we know.
As Sean Connery asked in the Untouchables, "So what is anyone going to do about it?"
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:56 pm to diat150
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Again, typically you wouldnt want these types of things going out to the internet at all.
Ok... I agree. BUT then you say:
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They don’t need to go to the internet, they just need to vpn back to wherever so that whoever need access can get to them.
VPN's require what? Exactly... internet.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:59 pm to GhostOfFreedom
The Biden voters on here won’t be swayed. This is not evidence.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:13 pm to Jjdoc
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VPN's require what? Exactly... internet.
Nah, the router that has the vpn setup has internet. If the apn doesn’t allow internet access the devices won’t access the internet.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:30 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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nvestigators for Attorney DePerno Reportedly Discover Modem Chips Embedded in Michigan Vo
Goddamn you're dense and apparently low functioning.
You know what, you're being naive. Truly, at this point in time any conservative person without a genuine mental handicap, that allows any Democrat supporter to continue to play games with them about whether or not their was fraud in the 2020 election should be absolutely insulted and I have no problem saying this but if we were face to face and you asked that bullshite to me Celtic, I would whip your frickin arse. Because they are absolutely liars and trying to hide and be coy about the "definition of the word IS" for example. Well, times up liberals. I take it very personally when I'm lied to and everytime you people act as though you're ignorant and not completely devout of character. So this bullshite needs to end.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:35 pm to diat150
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Nah, the router that has the vpn setup has internet.
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If the apn doesn’t allow internet access the devices won’t access the internet.
1- It sounds like you are stating that the machine is connected to an external router that has a VPN. That would require the machine to be connected to that router either by a line (like ether) or wifi. And Dominion has testified that they are not connected via WIFI nor by lines. Now knowing that they have telit units in them, we know why the CEO smiled with smugness when he stated that. Because they have telits. There is no need.
If that is the case, then there is ZERO reason to have the Telit module. It's money wasted.
2- If you are suggesting the machine that the telit is in is a router too, then the Telit is supplying internet access. It's the only way a VPN can be established in this set up. The tunnel has to be established via internet.
Unless you have a different set up in mind.... these are the options.
3- a router does not have internet. The router is given access by a modem that is in the router (generally speaking)
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:00 am to Jjdoc
Well cellular modems can be a router and not provide internet. Not sure if this telit module is but they certainly can be.
All of the carriers provide custom apn’s that have private static up addresses just like the router at your house assigns private static ip addresses to devices on your network. When you want to activate a SIM card on that apn that sim is assigned the private static ip. Then when that sim is put in a modem and the modem is configured with the apn it will be assigned that private static ip. Imagine 1000 voting machines all plugged into the same switch each with a different IP address, except in this scenario the cellular company is providing the connectivity. When that apn is setup they will give you the option if you want to have direct internet connectivity. More than likely they wouldn’t give these voting machines direct connectivity. The customer would then setup a vpn between their data center and telits data center which would give them access to the devices and the devices to them. Yes, this tunnel goes over the internet but that doesn’t mean that the cellular modems have internet access because they likely don’t and that is why they can say they don’t have internet access. They are on a private network where the only way to access them is thru a vpn. The devices themselves can’t go out to the internet on their own. Typically IP addresses on a private network on cellular can’t even communicate to each other unless that is requested.
Here is a basic video explaining how this work.
At 4:30 the diagram shows exactly what I am talking about with telit being the mvno.
LINK
So to people that don’t understand how this works whoever can say “the machines don’t have internet access” and most people will assume that the machines are safe. What they dont understand is that someone somewhere has access to these machines and is just bypassing having them go out to the internet because it is safer and more secure. So someone needs to figure out number 1, if these modems were active, and number 2 who all had access to them and number 3 what function does this modem serve as far as getting in to the machine or manipulating data in it.
All of the carriers provide custom apn’s that have private static up addresses just like the router at your house assigns private static ip addresses to devices on your network. When you want to activate a SIM card on that apn that sim is assigned the private static ip. Then when that sim is put in a modem and the modem is configured with the apn it will be assigned that private static ip. Imagine 1000 voting machines all plugged into the same switch each with a different IP address, except in this scenario the cellular company is providing the connectivity. When that apn is setup they will give you the option if you want to have direct internet connectivity. More than likely they wouldn’t give these voting machines direct connectivity. The customer would then setup a vpn between their data center and telits data center which would give them access to the devices and the devices to them. Yes, this tunnel goes over the internet but that doesn’t mean that the cellular modems have internet access because they likely don’t and that is why they can say they don’t have internet access. They are on a private network where the only way to access them is thru a vpn. The devices themselves can’t go out to the internet on their own. Typically IP addresses on a private network on cellular can’t even communicate to each other unless that is requested.
Here is a basic video explaining how this work.
At 4:30 the diagram shows exactly what I am talking about with telit being the mvno.
LINK
So to people that don’t understand how this works whoever can say “the machines don’t have internet access” and most people will assume that the machines are safe. What they dont understand is that someone somewhere has access to these machines and is just bypassing having them go out to the internet because it is safer and more secure. So someone needs to figure out number 1, if these modems were active, and number 2 who all had access to them and number 3 what function does this modem serve as far as getting in to the machine or manipulating data in it.
This post was edited on 4/11/21 at 7:16 am
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:32 am to diat150
They'll say it's for software/firmware "updates" but anyone with half a brain knows what they were used for.
Thing is you should be able to audit trail log deletion and also the time of the data transfers
If these things made large scale data imprints around 4am, or around the stoppage of counting, then well....
Thing is you should be able to audit trail log deletion and also the time of the data transfers
If these things made large scale data imprints around 4am, or around the stoppage of counting, then well....
This post was edited on 4/11/21 at 7:35 am
Posted on 4/11/21 at 4:07 pm to GhostOfFreedom
The question is -- why is Trump all over Dominion but hasn't even mentioned ES&S when their machines had modem chips.
Maybe because of the boost Trump and some Republican Senators got in states with ES&S machines.
Maybe because of the boost Trump and some Republican Senators got in states with ES&S machines.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 4:14 pm to RoyalAir
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At this point, how many more smoking guns are needed?
As much as I hate it, it doesn't matter. Nothing will be done about any fraud issues.
Our only hope is that it drives new election reform laws....which is not even being discussed ona federal level.
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