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re: Is the mass new home construction industry good for our country?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:27 am to weagle1999
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:27 am to weagle1999
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Would you prefer if we built like Europe does and build microdistricts so that we can crame everyone into one and two bedrooms apartment buildings instead of suburbs?
I don’t know. But are identical free standing homes on 1/4 acre lots in a neighborhood with 1000 homes really all that different?
Yes. There is a big difference between a three bedroom house with a yard vs a 3 room apartment in a 20+ stories tall building.
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:27 am to weagle1999
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Why is it imperative that everyone be able to afford a house?
Who said that "everyone" needed to afford a house? And I don't think homes being more affordable is a bad thing. It's something that likely needs to happen.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:30 am to weagle1999
Id argue that the DR Horton companies building garbage sucks...but homebuilders building quality houses will always be good for for the consumer
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:30 am to weagle1999
There are 100 million more people in Americia than they were in 1990. Mostly foreigners.
They have to live somewhere.
One thing is contractors are building bigger and more expensive homes now instead of starter homes because the profit on more expensive homes is bigger.
They have to live somewhere.
One thing is contractors are building bigger and more expensive homes now instead of starter homes because the profit on more expensive homes is bigger.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:31 am to WeeWee
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Yes. There is a big difference between a three bedroom house with a yard vs a 3 room apartment in a 20+ stories tall building.
And also Lowe’s and Husqvarna can sell you a lawnmower and make money off the house too.
I’m not saying people shouldn’t own houses. I’m saying that I am wondering if we are being played.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 10:32 am
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:31 am to weagle1999
I mean, there needs to be various tiers of housing. There needs to be acres of small homes/townhomes that a young couple in their 20s can reasonably afford. There needs to be that next tier, "the upgrade" that folks in their mid-30s can afford.
There also needs to be the higher tier (but below custom) for that group of upper middle class professionals/business owners.
Builders would love to just build the higher tier and custom homes, but without a ladder at the lower tiers, folks will never get there.
There also needs to be the higher tier (but below custom) for that group of upper middle class professionals/business owners.
Builders would love to just build the higher tier and custom homes, but without a ladder at the lower tiers, folks will never get there.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:37 am to weagle1999
It is going to destroy St. Tammany. The zoning board can't wait to approve another DSLD crap box subdivision.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 10:50 am
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:23 am to Reflex
quote:There's still plenty of homes being built by Americans for American wages, just not your fortune 500 corporate conglomerates. You don't know what you're talking about; you're using emotions instead of logic.
If you think homes are expensive now, wait until they have to pay Americans to build them. They'll go broke or not get built.
Exploiting cheap foreign labor and poor 3rd worlders while simultaneously blacklisting American craftsmen is also why those corporate built houses are built like trash. There is no craftsmanship left anymore in those houses. They're all trash (not that anyone can buy them, private equity will gladly rent you one though).
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They'll go broke or not get built.
What an absolutely asinine and uninformed thing to say. Again, you have no idea what you're talking about, you're wishcasting. The other alternative is you're a MTG who pretends to be objective but has a vested interest in exploiting 3rd world people for pennies on the dollar while your fellow American packs boxes in an Amazon warehouse while Amazon is busy building their robotic replacement. Think about the absurd retardation it takes to think that poor 3rd worlders who don't even know English, who barely know the standard system of measurements, and who are used to living in our version of lawnmower sheds are better than American craftsmen (there's such thing as Latino Americans) at building a home, and that they are far more reliable. On the contrary, the fresher they are across the border, the less reliable they are at following code, which is the base expectation of quality building. In most cases, they simply couldn't care less about code requirements. It's a foreign, irrelevant concept to them. I won't hire a crew to do any building or repairs on my properties if they're 3rd world illegals. From reliability to poor quality work, I've been burned far too many times to keep doing it and expect different results.
quote:Why would I do it? I'm looking to hire someone to do it. I already have a job. What kind of stupid, irrational argument is that. How about we kick their asses out and these corporations start paying American wages to American citizens, and fine their asses if they're caught doing otherwise? That's America first. That's America ONLY.
Alright, you don't want illegals doing the job? Then you do it.
Think about the pathetic, self-serving, exploitative nature of what you're saying: Let private equity raze the American workers for a margin while exploting poor third world people for pennies on the dollar when they should be back in their own country helping build it. Then all the money they do make, instead of circulating it in our economy, they send it to another country. What a pathetic, low IQ, abusive and corrupt way of thinking.
quote:On the contrary, it is your emotional, ignorant position that is the shortsighted one. Yours is the position that thinks of one thing and one thing only: The most margin possible for corporations, at all cost, American citizenry be damned. The America first, Americans first and only policy is the long term solution for this country, and it's even more absurd that you think Trump, and by extension MAGA, believes anything other than what you believe: Trump loves H1bs and illegal, cheap labor, as do the elites. It's the common American who suffers. He talks big, but he nor any other politician at this time in American history has the balls to really do what needs to be done regarding restoring the American workforce back into American hands. The growing pains are too scary for politicians, right now. Besides, we're still too busy meddling in other hemispheres and funding Israel, Ukraine, and every other country to focus all of our attention here at home.
The whole thing is just absolute short sighted nonsense
To the OP, from the environmental standpoint, we should absolutely be reusing and redeveloping already developed, dilapidated, abandoned housing lots, old industrial areas, etc. for new development. That would cut into the profit margin for reflex's beloved Blackrock, etc., though, so they won't do it unless they're forced to by law. Corporate developers and private equity are massacring our countryside, our farmland, and our ecology and biodiversity with their insatiable appetite to build more cracker jack homes that they can rent out in perpetuity. Their appetite for cheap construction also artificially inflates land prices in rural areas, including homes that are actually for sale to American families. It'd be different if they were forced, by law, to sell to Americans, because that would actually help Americans with the American dream of owning a home, but they much prefer (and mostly do) rent and rent only. We've been exploited and razed from every conceivable angle for so long, that it's a damn wonder and testament of the American citizenry's spirit that we've made it as long as we have. And yet we still have mental midgets like reflex who cheer it on with his shortsightedness.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:28 am to mudshuvl05
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There's still plenty of homes being built by Americans for American wages, just not your fortune 500 corporate conglomerates
Ok, then show me. And show me their prices.
I think you do have a lot of good points in there FWIW
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:31 am to weagle1999
Affordable housing is a huge need in a lot of areas. Build away. 90% of houses are cookie cutter. All houses are just boxes to some extent.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:35 am to BuzzdLightBeer
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Density creates scarcity which crushes affordability
wut
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:36 am to Reflex
I really don't care if you believe me or not. I am a contractor for multi million dollar buildings for the energy and industrial sectors. You can say want you want to paint a picture that does not exist. We have subs all the time on every job, has yet to be an issue. All of them need to be vetted to get into facilities, there is plenty enough labor.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:49 am to weagle1999
To me the root cause is that if you try to put all the welfare babies to work there are tons of problems they will cause
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:50 am to weagle1999
At least we have storage, normal sized refrigerators and W/D, garages, etc.
Cookie cutter houses have been a thing since WWII ended (at least). Your perception of how shitty they look will be fixed in 15 years when the trees go in.
Cookie cutter houses have been a thing since WWII ended (at least). Your perception of how shitty they look will be fixed in 15 years when the trees go in.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:58 am to weagle1999
The dsldcels on here will be really pissed at this thread but it’ll take them at least an hour to get here from their swamp in prairieville and their wrists are too weak to swing a hammer and fix up a boomer house
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:00 pm to BuzzdLightBeer
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Land use is good. Creates more jobs.
Half of our country’s livable housing is in the ghetto
If you locked up the criminals making those neighborhoods bad and sent in the gays you’d have trendy tapas spots and bike lanes inside of two years
Turning agricultural land and swamps that act as natural flood protection into shitboxes with single moms and travel ball families is not a good use of land
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 12:11 pm to Reflex
quote:Go to rural America. I know dozens American families who on their 3rd and 4th generation of home construction. I know many expert American craftsmen and home builders, though they're dying out. There's plenty of American craftsmen. They're all I use.
Ok, then show me. And show me their prices.
quote:Yeah sure bud, give me a sec and I'll break out the comparative bids for you
And show me their prices
I just had an addition on a property done. The American citizen's bid was ~30% more. If you're looking for bargain basement deals on your forever home, then you might need to reevaluate your situation. This is not some expendable item. Third world illegals often build like it is expendable, and it will be in 20 years. Go to any social media/ YouTube page of home inspectors and watch them as they inspect dsld, dr horton, and the other cracker jack builders. I wouldn't buy one of those raggedy things with your money.
There are tens of thousands of videos out there like this. These huge corporate builders are the hit dogs who are hollering because it's a wee bit harder for them to exploit poor illegals and American workers. They get a better margin, we get fewer jobs, more homes to rent and less to buy, and if you do buy it, this is what you get. You really want to save 30% on your home build? This is how you get it, and this is not an anomaly. It is the norm with these homes built by people who were living in corrugated metal shacks 18 months ago.
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Bump once for the night crew 
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:44 pm to weagle1999
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Is the mass new home construction industry good for our country?
Why don’t you let people do what they want instead of being a petty tyrant?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:47 pm to Penrod
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Why don’t you let people do what they want instead of being a petty tyrant?
Is thai what you do?
What things are illegal that you think should be legal?
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 6:52 pm
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