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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Bearcat90
The Land
Member since Nov 2021
2955 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:50 am to
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Roe v. Wade is seemingly dead.


Let the Skyscreaming begin. They shall be heard even to the depths of hell where most of these libs are heading to anyway.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10773 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:27 am to
Although 'women's rights' are a thing, so are human (unborn baby) rights.
Why are their rights never brought up?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8169 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:36 am to
I have no idea what is coming down the pipeline but I doubt that Roe v. Wade is dead but I would also not be surprised if the court allowed a number of limitations from the state as to what rights a woman has versus the rights of the state over the unborn child
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86769 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:59 am to
I think the inference here is that if Roberts doesn't write the opinion, it decreases the chance of what you're talking about. Assuming Alito/Thomas/Gorsuch are for overturning Roe, and Kagan/Sotomayor/Breyer are for keeping Roe, the likely options become:

6-3 with all purported conservatives against Roe

5-4 or more like 5-3-1 against Roe, with Roberts not in the majority because the majority is taking a definitive stance against Roe as bad law

6-3 or 5-4 to keep Roe in some form. Pulling Roberts plus ACB/Kav is plausible, but the issue is that it seems highly unlikely that ACB/Kav are signing onto an opinion authored by one of the libs. To get this result the assumption would be some split the baby Roberts-style approach with the CJ writing the opinion.

But all that said, Roberts could very well still write the Dobbs opinion, it wouldn't be unprecedented or anything like that.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113914 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:02 pm to
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because the majority is taking a definitive stance against Roe as bad law


which it is, and always had been. regardless of your feelings on abortion, it's a terrible decision in every way. Even Lawrence Tribe admits that.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
108337 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:17 pm to
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Blaming Trump and/or Elon for the upcoming death of millions of women "who now have to get abortions in alleys" in 3... 2...



They don't "have" to do that. They could choose to have the baby and give it up for adoption, or, God forbid, raise the child themselves.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16897 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:25 pm to
Will abortion be dead in the USA or will it refer back to the states? If so I assume all the blue ones will still allow it.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86769 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:26 pm to
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Will abortion be dead in the USA or will it refer back to the states? If so I assume all the blue ones will still allow it.



States

Something like 24-26 states have laws readied for a potential Roe overturn.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3395 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:42 pm to
If this goes back to the states then is it possible for some states to have even more lax pro abortion laws?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32610 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:45 pm to
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If this goes back to the states then is it possible for some states to have even more lax pro abortion laws?


Yes.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:50 pm to
California on deck with the "post birth" legislation...
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3168 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

We have over a month to prepare for the greatest melt of all time.
And it will be the melt of all melts. Cant wait for all the blue hair tears.
Posted by zonion
Member since Oct 2021
23 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 12:56 pm to
I could not have said it better myself.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 4:25 pm to
I just hope this starts to put an end to SCOTUS making national law. Ie...gay marriage needs to go away and left to states too.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 4:27 pm to
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Abortion started and still is about population control and eugenics. It’s never changed
wrong. abortion is about Satan's thirst for dead babies. civilizations after civilizations have killed babies. the common tie is satan.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20498 posts
Posted on 4/28/22 at 4:56 pm to
Both. Eugenics was designed to lower the population of "undesirables" which in the past meant non-whites. Satan is behind racism as well.
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