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re: Journalist fired after calling police systemic racism a ‘myth’
Posted on 6/25/20 at 3:38 pm to mindbreaker
Posted on 6/25/20 at 3:38 pm to mindbreaker
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The fact you highlight the looting and violence just shows you are using the same old song and dance of applying the actions of the few to the many.
And yet it seems the left does this to an even more extensive degree with police. Do you feel the same about that or do you only bring it up when it benefits you?
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 3:45 pm to mindbreaker
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my question is simply do black people get treated differently (harsher) in interactions with police officers than white people.
That answer is yes. It doesn't matter as to why...at all...the answer should be no.
If you don't know why how do you fix it
Posted on 6/25/20 at 3:47 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
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If you don't know why how do you fix it
I don't know how about we try not judging people based off of their skin tone. that would be a good start
Posted on 6/25/20 at 3:48 pm to kajunsoldier
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And yet it seems the left does this to an even more extensive degree with police. Do you feel the same about that or do you only bring it up when it benefits you?
The looting and rioting will end. It always does. Shitty policing has always existed and will exist after the looting and rioting unless we fix it.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 3:57 pm to mindbreaker
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I don't know how about we try not judging people based off of their skin tone. that would be a good start
So when police disproportionately shoot white people per interaction than black people it means what? When black cops don't shoot black people less than white cops it means what? When black people are much more likely to kill police officers it means what? When black people in general are more likely to kill white people it means what? You like to draw inferences based on data but have no consistency. The "why" is important because you little cherry picked data points don't tell the picture or give any clarity to solutions beyond "be less racist" as if that will solve anything.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 6/25/20 at 3:58 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
Feelings don't care about your facts!
Posted on 6/25/20 at 3:59 pm to mindbreaker
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The looting and rioting will end. It always does. Shitty policing has always existed and will exist after the looting and rioting unless we fix it.
You do understand that what we are seeing is more than protesting police brutality. It is a Marxist movement, a rebellion and a revolution. The BLM leaders have said as much. BLM does not care one thing about black lives.
If they did, they would be protesting in Chicago and other cities where blacks take black lives at a much, much higher rate than the police.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:00 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
So she wrote the same editorial that someone wrote for the WSJ. And she got fired for it.
Lolz at Syracuse student newspaper. Probably is a super shitty newspaper.
Lolz at Syracuse student newspaper. Probably is a super shitty newspaper.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:01 pm to mindbreaker
Some police officers abuse their power, yes. I think everyone knows that. But to paint all police as power hungry thugs is ignorant and has no place in a conversation.
These looters and rioters are using this as a catalyst to loot and riot. They wanted a chance to cause chaos and it just so happened to be this. The same thing happened with Katrina. Whenever it fits their needs, criminals will get behind a tragedy to commit crimes. On that note, there is no justifying their actions and they need to be held accountable.
You don't group bad cops with the good and in the same breath seperate those rioting/looting with those peacefully protesting.
These looters and rioters are using this as a catalyst to loot and riot. They wanted a chance to cause chaos and it just so happened to be this. The same thing happened with Katrina. Whenever it fits their needs, criminals will get behind a tragedy to commit crimes. On that note, there is no justifying their actions and they need to be held accountable.
You don't group bad cops with the good and in the same breath seperate those rioting/looting with those peacefully protesting.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:03 pm to mindbreaker
quote:this is stupidity on steroids. He gets brought up because there is a cultural problem among a subset of blacks. And that cultural problem most certainly does drive them to be more Criminal. It's not the skin color that causes it.
The fact that it keeps getting brought up means a whole shite load of people think that the color of a persons skin directly affects crime rate. I.E. racism.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:03 pm to TS1926
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You do understand that what we are seeing is more than protesting police brutality. It is a Marxist movement, a rebellion and a revolution. The BLM leaders have said as much. BLM does not care one thing about black lives.
If they did, they would be protesting in Chicago and other cities where blacks take black lives at a much, much higher rate than the police.
That's the argument that never gets answered by BLM or their sympathizers.
I do agree with this statement
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:03 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
Show the evidence. More assaults on whites by blacks, twice as many whites killed by blacks then blacks killed by whites. More whites killed by the police. It is all a bunch of BS!
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:06 pm to TS1926
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You do understand that what we are seeing is more than protesting police brutality. It is a Marxist movement, a rebellion and a revolution.
No that is what YOU are seeing. I see a segment of fed up people tired of being treated as lesser human beings. And I agree with them on that.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:08 pm to mindbreaker
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And what makes him the authority. There are people smarter than him that say he is wrong and out of touch.
Exactly. What would a successful black man know about racism? They need whtie leftist journalists to show to tell them how it all works. Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:08 pm to mindbreaker
You don’t see shite, dumbass.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:09 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
quote:Just disband the police, duh!
If you don't know why how do you fix it
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:10 pm to mindbreaker
quote:BLM says this is racist, btw....
I don't know how about we try not judging people based off of their skin tone.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:12 pm to mindbreaker
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No I'm simply looking at what the cause of those statistics are.
You're making a claim as to the "cause" of those statistics and that claim is entirely dependent on feelings and anecdotes.
It's the playbook.
Emotion over data.
Narrative over fact.
When you can't make the argument on facts and data, you have to implicate the "system". Without any credible evidence, of course.
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People don't wake up and go well I'm black I guess I should go rob someone
But the "system" and the police do wake up and go "I'm going to go arrest someone who is black", am I right?
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The fact that it keeps getting brought up means a whole shite load of people think that the color of a persons skin directly affects crime rate. I.E. racism.
No one believes this. They believe the cultures and circumstances of black Americans (and the flaws in each) lead to higher engagement in criminal activity.
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That answer is yes. It doesn't matter as to why...at all...the answer should be no.
Cool. Go find the perfect police officers who can suspend their prejudices and learned experiences and treat everyone the same. Should be easy enough.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:13 pm to mindbreaker
quote:You should find better friends to hang out with.
I see a segment of fed up people tired of being treated as lesser human beings.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 4:13 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
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So when police disproportionately shoot white people per interaction than black people it means what?
Doesn't matter people shouldn't be treated differently based on the color of their skin
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When black cops don't shoot black people less than white cops it means what?
Doesn't matter people shouldn't be treated differently based on the color of their skin
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When black people are much more likely to kill police officers it means what?
Doesn't matter people shouldn't be treated differently based on the color of their skin
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When black people in general are more likely to kill white people it means what?
One...more...time...Doesn't matter people shouldn't be treated differently based on the color of their skin
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The "why" is important because you little cherry picked data points don't tell the picture or give any clarity to solutions beyond "be less racist" as if that will solve anything.
Holy shite, really? Treating people equally will solve nothing? I mean I know its so hard to do and costs a lot. Oh that right it costs literally nothing and is easy. Jeez man the level people will go to maintain the status quo is mind boggling. Even when that status quo is complete fricked.
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