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Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:39 pm to
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Seriously though its like drugs.
Except users don't die from accidental overdose
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:40 pm to
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Except users don't die from accidental overdose


STD's can be a killer.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:49 pm to
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Except users don't die from accidental overdose



I don't know about that. My friend Nancy's husband died while they were having sex. On Christmas Eve of all nights.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:49 pm to
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What about the women that have their husbands come home after having consensual sex with another woman or man and they give her an incurable STD? It happens quite frequently. There is a ministry at a local church that is led by a woman who had a husband that did such. She didn't know it and one day he came home and told her he had HIV.


This seems to be a matter that's entirely personal.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 11:53 pm to
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This seems to be a matter that's entirely personal.



You only said that the government should stay out of the bedroom regarding adults having consensual sex. The wife didn't give consent to her husband having sex with other people. Remember, most states are no-fault divorce. The woman that heads that ministry didn't contract HIV but there are women that attend who have contracted HIV, Herpes and other STD's from their promiscuous husbands.

This is actually the reason prostitution is illegal is because there are innocent victims that most do not think about. We only think about the two having sex, not the innocent wives at home that aren't involved in those sexual relations. .
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 11:57 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:11 am to
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Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:12 am to
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You only said that the government should stay out of the bedroom regarding adults having consensual sex. The wife didn't give consent to her husband having sex with other people. Remember, most states are no-fault divorce. The woman that heads that ministry didn't contract HIV but there are women that attend who have contracted HIV, Herpes and other STD's from their promiscuous husbands.
What's your point? Legalizing prostitution will cause men to be even more promiscuous than they are?

Won't legalized, regulated prostitution cut down on STD's?
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This is actually the reason prostitution is illegal is because there are innocent victims that most do not think about. We only think about the two having sex, not the innocent wives at home that aren't involved in those sexual relations. .
I still don't see your point concerning the legalization pf prostitution.

Hey...I'm a Christian and I believe sex outside of marriage is wrong, But I also believe throwing people in jail for having sex is stupid and counter-productive.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 12:50 am to
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I don't know about that. My friend Nancy's husband died while they were having sex. On Christmas Eve of all nights.


At least he died in her arms and not with a Ho Ho Ho.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:03 am to
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If you pay for a massage and no sex - that's taxable - but if you pay for massage and sex - does that render the entire amount tax free? Does it depend on if the massage was purely therapeutic or if it was essentially foreplay - and who makes that determination?


Is it just sexual intercourse that is illegal? Are all a other activities not covered by the law? If so why not pay only for those activities and the sex is lagniappe?

Where is the line drawn on what would be legal? For instance would it be illegal to pay a woman to strip and dance in a hotel room when it is legal in a strip club? What if other acts were performed that did not include actual sex? Is the law specific as to what is prohibited?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:08 am to
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Is it just sexual intercourse that is illegal?


No. In fact, in Louisiana, a prostitute can be charged as a sex offender for committing "unnatural" sex acts like giving blow jobs.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 6:12 am to
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The wife didn't give consent to her husband having sex with other people. Remember, most states are no-fault divorce. The woman that heads that ministry didn't contract HIV but there are women that attend who have contracted HIV, Herpes and other STD's from their promiscuous husbands.


Well maybe they shouldn't have married a creep that likes to cheat on them with prostitues. This boils down to oh we are so sorry you married a dumbass let the goverment fix it for you by making it illegal.

That or they did like a lot of women do after getting married and just hold out and quit having sex. Men get married and think "boy we are having sex all the time and I really like her. Now I don't have to go looking for it anymore" Fast forward a year later and he is lucky to get any action twice a year.

My point is know who you are marrying first off. No it is absolutely not all their fault. Hell 98% of it falls on the dipshit guy in the first place. But that last two percent is strictly on their shoulders for either not knowing who they are marrying or taking care of their own marriage

All that said current legal establishments in Nevada require constant testing for STD's and such in order to work
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:13 pm to
I am opposed to the legalization of prostitution and I have given my reasons why in other threads on the subject so I'm not going to post them again on this thread.

However, since prostitutes say they are just providing a service then if prostitution is legalized I think just like every attorney has to do some pro bono work for clients who can't afford to pay for the service they are providing, every prostitute should be required to do some pro bono or rather pro boner work for clients who can't afford to pay for the service they are providing.

This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:23 pm to
dawg does having laws against prostitution stop it? does it keep it off the streets? does it keep the black market from exploiting and trafficing young girls? does it stop human trafficing? does it stop stds?

the answer is no, by keeping it illegal all you do is enrich organized crime, enable sex and human trafficing, and increase the chance of stds.

look at nevada, where it is legal the prostitutes are off the street, have routine std testing, are paid well, have insurance, and are not being controlled by organized crime and trafficed all over the world.

there is no LOGICAL reason for it to be illegal. Now i would never use one and think it is crazy to but Beta males have to do something.
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:26 pm to
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Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:28 pm to
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Man, a guy is always payin for sex, you know what I'm sayin?

A whore charges a guy money, right? But if a guy has a girlfriend, hes gotta take her out on dates, buy her shite, and listen to her stupid mother frickin problems, know what I'm saying?

So, eventually, all this shite could be considered commerce, because a guy eventually always pays for sex, know what I'm saying?

I read that with "Ralphie May" voice.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:29 pm to
It should be legalized and a sales tax put on it which specifically goes for payment on the national debt and then we can all go frick for our country.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:34 pm to
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I read a story of a brothel that was coercing its girls into taking drugs. Some were as young as 15.

I want to know how is it that a 15 year old girl cannot legally consent to sex, yet can be incarcerated for prostitution.

When a 15 year old engages in prostitution, isn't that statutory rape on the part of the john - or at least carnal knowledge of a juvenile? How can she be prosecuted if she can't consent?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36995 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:36 pm to
brillant!!!

why the hell is the default answer to tax the hell out of everything at the federal levle? prostitution is just like any other business, there is a built in profit margin. All taxing something does is drive up prices and slow the economy.

The answer is to legalize and regulate at the state level. If a state wants to tax it to off set the cost of regulation then fine but in no way shape or form should a federal tax be placed on it. Has nothing to do with them and is doing nothing but saving them money.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:38 pm to
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dawg does having laws against prostitution stop it? does it keep it off the streets? does it keep the black market from exploiting and trafficing young girls? does it stop human trafficing? does it stop stds?

the answer is no,


I'm not going to waste my time arguing with people who already have their minds made up.

However, even if prostitution is legal, there will still be a black market for prostitution because there will always be a woman desperate for easy money who will charge a cheaper price for her service than the price the legal prostitutes are charging.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/14/14 at 1:42 pm to
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even if prostitution is legal, there will still be a black market for prostitution because there will always be a woman desperate for easy money who will charge a cheaper price for her service than the price the legal prostitutes are charging.

price competition =/= black market
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