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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:55 pm to
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how many times does Communist ANTIFA have to show up and cause violence


When they kill someone and admit that they want to eradicate whole races of Americans solely for their race, they'll be on the same level.

Equating all counter-protesters in Charlottesville with your current boogeyman of Antifa is lazy, dumb, and beneath you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:55 pm to
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Why do you condemn the people who were there to protest the Nazis?

you mean communists? they're just as bad as Nazis



you're calling people like this, peaceful and non-responsible for violence when they're violent organizations
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102111 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:56 pm to
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Anyone saying "both sides" over Charlottesville is doing just that. There were Nazis, then there were people protesting the Nazis.


Quit lying to yourself. You need to admit Antifa is a thing. Antifa is a violent hate filled organization that shows up looking for a fight.

If you claim to condemn violent ideologies in America but refuse to admit Antifa played a role in fueling Saturday's violence, you're a dishonest hack who doesn't actually care about less violence.

But we already know you're a dishonest hack. This is just more embarrassing reinforcement of that fact for you.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
156777 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:57 pm to
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The right is anti-Jewish. Pro-Israel, but anti-Jewish.


You are so unhinged.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:57 pm to
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alt left


Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:57 pm to
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you're calling people like this, peaceful and non-responsible for violence when they're violent organizations


How many people did they kill this weekend? How many did they put in the hospital?

Thought so.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41128 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:57 pm to
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Why do you condemn the people who were there to protest the Nazis?


Because they are violent too.

You know it, I know it, everyone knows it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471785 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:58 pm to
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Equating all counter-protesters in Charlottesville with your current boogeyman of Antifa is lazy, dumb, and beneath you.

ANTIFA has been doing this since last year

they rioted at Berkeley when a non-Nazi wanted to speak

they threatened violence when a Jewish person (who received the most antisemeitc hate from the alt-right last year) wanted to speak

they threatened a liberal (Dave Rubin) who wanted to speak

they threatened a non-Nazi woman who wanted to speak

this is all pre-VA. they're authoritarians and want to use violence to silence speech. Nazis are authoritarians who want to use violence to silence speech

the fact that you refuse to admit this shows your bias and intellectual dishonesty

eithert hey're all bad or none of them are bad. i choose to believe they're both bad b/c they both use violence
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110357 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:58 pm to
Basically, Atl seems to be saying, anyone who calls himself a Nazi today (and I don't pretend to understand, and certainly do not agree, with such motivation) has essentially done the equivalent of shoving 6 million jews into a gas chamber.

So, why does it not stand to reason that anyone who calls himself a socialist/communist has essentially done the equivalent of sending 20 million people to die in the Soviet gulags?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:59 pm to
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and admit that they want to eradicate whole races of Americans solely for their race,


The Jews in the real world today, normally laugh.
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471785 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:59 pm to
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How many people did they kill this weekend?

0

only 1 person, luckily, has died in these clashes (there have been a ton of them)

it's very sad that the lady died and it's inexcusable that a piece of human garbage killed her, but that isn't a trump card to excuse the history of violence of ANTIFA

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How many did they put in the hospital?

i'm sure both sides put a bunch of people in the hospital
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:59 pm to
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ANTIFA has been doing this since last year


People have been protesting fascists since fascists started becoming more public in their rallies with the rise of Trump? I'm shocked.

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this is all pre-VA


In VA, which is what we're discussing, this magical ANTIFA group didn't cause the violence. Nazis did.

This magical ANTIFA group didn't kill someone. Nazis did.

When you go 'both sides are bad' after Nazis killed someone, you're minimizing the horror of Nazis at the expense of attempting to validate your political party. It's disgusting.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471785 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 3:59 pm to
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Basically, Atl seems to be saying, anyone who calls himself a Nazi today (and I don't pretend to understand, and certainly do not agree, with such motivation) has essentially done the equivalent of shoving 6 million jews into a gas chamber.

So, why does it not stand to reason that anyone who calls himself a socialist/communist has essentially done the equivalent of sending 20 million people to die in the Soviet gulags?

because 1 person died in a horrible tragedy so that invalidates all logic, history, or reason
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:00 pm to
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How many people did they kill this weekend? How many did they put in the hospital?

Thought so.


Yall thought yall were wearing him down and painting him into a corner and he just came out and bitch slapped your #resist movement.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24272 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:00 pm to
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In VA, which is what we're discussing, this magical ANTIFA group didn't cause the violence. Nazis did


The opposite of this is true.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23095 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:01 pm to
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Quit lying to yourself. You need to admit Antifa is a thing. Antifa is a violent hate filled organization that shows up looking for a fight.


Antifa is equivalent to the Sturmabteilung in tactics actions and rhetoric. In other words the real Nazis and Fascists at these protests were the ones claiming to be against it.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:01 pm to
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THAN NAZIS?!

Ever hear of the 'Doctors Plot' under Stalin?

Plenty of minorities have been killed under communist regimes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471785 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:02 pm to
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In VA, which is what we're discussing, this magical ANTIFA group didn't cause the violence. Nazis did.

you don't know that and i don't either

history says it was ANTIFA, but no objective evidence has come out. hell even Van fricking Jones just said on CNN it's not clear

just b/c history leans ANTIFA doesn't mean it wasn't the Nazis. we simply do not know. we DO know both were violent, as is their behaivors. Nazis are violent. Communists are violent. both are terrible extremists and have no place in modern society

i have no problem calling out both. why are you having problems doing that? this isn't complicated

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When you go 'both sides are bad' after Nazis killed someone, you're minimizing the horror of Nazis at the expense of attempting to validate your political party.

my political party is not involved b/c we abhor authoritarians on the left and right. i'm the one calling out the violence of both sides of extremism. you are the one who refuses to give blame to your side b/c of your political affiliation
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17013 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:02 pm to
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BamaAtl


This whole ordeal really has you off the hinges. I've never seen a poster come so unglued.

Your posts have devolved into nothing but

"BUT NAZI'S!!"

"THERE WERE NAZI'S!!!"

It's like nothing else can even enter your brain. No reason. No logic. All you hear, and all that comes out is:

"NAZI'S!"

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:02 pm to
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anyone who calls himself a Nazi today (and I don't pretend to understand, and certainly do not agree, with such motivation) has essentially done the equivalent of shoving 6 million jews into a gas chamber.


Because anyone who calls himself a Nazi today (or alt-right, or a white nationalist) WANTS to shove all of the Jews (and blacks, and Catholics, and disabled) into a gas chamber.

THAT IS WHAT THEY STAND FOR.

Just because we haven't let them build the ovens here doesn't mean they wouldn't use them if we allowed it. That's the kind of hatred and bigotry that has no place in our country.
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