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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:19 pm to
I had posted this earlier, but if Trump had pardoned Cohen . Do you think this case ever moves forward? That is something that keeps knawing at me.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:20 pm to
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He dared to run for re-election. That’s it.


And he was conspiring to campaign to beat Biden.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:21 pm to
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I had posted this earlier, but if Trump had pardoned Cohen . Do you think this case ever moves forward?

If they don't have Cohen, I doubt it.

Would NY have been able to prosecute Cohen becomes the question.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:24 pm to
Had it not been this show trial, the dirty comrades would have come up with several more loads of BS lawfare and the clapping seals in the MSM would proclaim it true.

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36667 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:25 pm to
What a colossal frick up by Trump. You pardon Cohen. Cohen keeps his mouth shut. At the worst it makes Bragg's job many magnitudes harder because he doesn't have a guide
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16862 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:28 pm to
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His justification was the mental issues of Biden.
ie an idiot
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Jack Smith is moving forward against Biden?
ok well you obviously aren't anymore fit to stand trial than Biden is
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 5:30 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:31 pm to
I think it was personal between Trump and Cohen at that point. And Trump saw Cohen as disloyal...and we all know what that does to Trump's brain
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:32 pm to
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ok well you obviously aren't anymore fit to stand trial than Biden is


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Or are you bringing up a non-related situation without stating the transition?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:41 pm to
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Even if he did, the case isn't over. They will re-try Trump
You have no idea as to the reputational damage this is doing to the Judicial Branch. In my estimation, it is generationally irreparable.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:45 pm to
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What a colossal frick up by Trump. You pardon Cohen
Cohen is a proven liar. Costello was set to establish him as a liar in this case. The POS judge refused to allow it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:46 pm to
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You have no idea as to the reputational damage this is doing to the Judicial Branch. In my estimation, it is generationally irreparable.

What does this have to do with re-trying Trump?

That's also a prosecutorial, not judicial, decision.

*ETA: the one way the courts could dismiss this whole case is to rule the entire statute unconstitutional. That's the one path.
This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 5:47 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16862 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:46 pm to
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Or are you bringing up a non-related situation without stating the transition?
you saw "lawfare" is "malleable." I gave you 3 similar cases handled completely different based on the political persuasion of the alleged perpetrators. You play dumb and start the mental gymnastics because it's so you really all you can do especially when you've already admitted the NY judge was a partisan hack. Apparently partisan hack judges don't equal lawfare in your warped reality
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:48 pm to
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That's also a prosecutorial, not judicial, decision
judicial partisan brain rot. Words mean things.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:48 pm to
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What does this have to do with re-trying Trump?
You'd be better served by asking yourself wtf it has to do w/ an LOL emoji.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:49 pm to
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Apparently partisan hack judges don't equal lawfare in your warped reality

They theoretically can, especially if you can change what "lawfare" is with every scenario
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16862 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:51 pm to
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They theoretically can, especially if you can change what "lawfare" is with every scenario
Then define it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471498 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:53 pm to
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Then define it.

My stance on lawfare is that it's not well-defined (and lacks a consistent definition), so how can *I* define it?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18401 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:54 pm to
This. It's not the charge.. but I agree that the msm used that talking point so much that the people who didn't follow the case would believe the act of paying stormy at all....was illegal. And that's what they were going for.. to coax the masses into believing something not illegal...was illegal.

The technicalities of the actual charges were dull.. so it was best if the people who weren't following along just believe all of it was illegal.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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137062 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:59 pm to
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*ETA: the one way the courts could dismiss this whole case is to rule the entire statute unconstitutional. That's the one path.
There are a number of "paths." Regardless, the damage is done.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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137062 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:04 pm to
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My stance on lawfare is that it's not well-defined
Goodness

Let's make this as simple as we did previously.

• Law delineates an offense, then attempts to identify a target regardless of political persuasion.

• Lawfare delineates a target, typically based on political persuasion, then attempts to identify an offence or offenses.
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