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re: Lets discuss Russia.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 7:54 pm to Marquesa
Posted on 3/1/25 at 7:54 pm to Marquesa
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discuss Russia.
by Marquesa
They are an unmitigated dicatorship with nuclear weapons who seek hegenomy and see the US as the power that stands in their way. There's that.
Describe the part where Russia came after the US here. How have they threatened you as a US citizen?
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Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:06 pm to David_DJS
My college advisor was a Russian Studies expert. The university tried to get rid of him because they thought he was a Communist. He was very liberal, for sure, but I never heard him extol the greatness of Communism. He was the first person I remember talking about the division in the USSR. He was the first one that I remember who hinted at the possible breakup because of cultural and ethnic differences. I took a number of his courses, and the one thing that I learned is that Russia is a very complex country and has a longstanding history of being somewhat xenophobic.
It is very important that we keep Russia and China from being too closely aligned. A lot of idiot democrats don't realize the imporatnce of that.China is our greatest threat. We need to maintain close ties with India,Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan and many other nations to counter China's influence. However, it is important that we manitain good relations with Russia.
It is very important that we keep Russia and China from being too closely aligned. A lot of idiot democrats don't realize the imporatnce of that.China is our greatest threat. We need to maintain close ties with India,Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan and many other nations to counter China's influence. However, it is important that we manitain good relations with Russia.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:12 pm to Goforit
Putin in an imperialist in dwarfs clothing
How’s the guy that ran against him last doing ?
How’s the guy that ran against him last doing ?
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:16 pm to sta4ever
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Their traditional values are nothing like ours.
If you woke up in a Russian town, in the middle of nowhere, you would know and understand all of the social rules. They have the same basic sense of ettiqute that we do. And it would feel like you were on a visiting your grandparents, everything would feel old fashioned.
Two core cultural differences, the Orthodox Church never embraced pacifism, Count Tolstoy was tossed from the church for his dangerous ideas about pacifism, and they have a much stronger communal group identity than we do. A persons identity is linked with family and nation in a way that does not exist in the West.
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:19 pm to AtticusOSullivan
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Seems they stand for traditional western values far more than most of our so called Allies.
Yeah, traditional western values like dictatorship.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:20 pm to Lima Whiskey
As a Southerner I disagree with the last part lol
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:21 pm to Narax
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Your normal worker in Poland, France, Italy and the UK is actually a bit like here.
Germany, and the Nordics... are weird.
Russia totally alien.
Genuine question, what is your ethnic background
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:21 pm to Penrod
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?Yeah, traditional western values like dictatorship
Whens Ukraine going to allow elections?
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:23 pm to Marquesa
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They are an unmitigated dicatorship with nuclear weapons who seek hegenomy and see the US as the power that stands in their way. There's that.
Yeah, but Tucker likes them.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:25 pm to AtticusOSullivan
Well that's tricky.
I mean there are forces that will tilt the will of the people. What country has had elections in war or civil war. Why none worth a damn.
Is the check in the mail? Asking for friends.
I mean there are forces that will tilt the will of the people. What country has had elections in war or civil war. Why none worth a damn.
Is the check in the mail? Asking for friends.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:20 pm to goatmilker
I would expect true democracy would welcome democracy at every turn?
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:21 pm to AtticusOSullivan
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Have you been watching EU governments by chance?
So let's see, EU's stupid leadership is enough reason for you to support a country with a long history of oppressing and wantonly murdering millions of its people, subjecting them to a brutal and proven failed form of government, and being led today by a man who was a major cog in that government's wheel (KGB) and would happily subject his people to communism again if he thought he could get away with it. If you think he wouldn't, just think back to how he handled Russian dissenters against the current war with Ukraine. I just don't understand you people who apparently think, "I hate the Democrats, so that means I have to like Putin."
(By the way, I'm going after the downvote record.
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Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:33 pm to BayouBlitz
Conspiracy theorists: "The Deep State controls the USA, they've ruined this country!"
* Russia's leader does everything they accuse the Deep State of doing *
Conspiracy theorists: "What a guy, he's a real man!"
i dont get it
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:41 pm to RelicBatches86
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Conspiracy theorists: "The Deep State controls the USA, they've ruined this country!" ?
* Russia's leader does everything they accuse the Deep State of doing *
Conspiracy theorists: "What a guy, he's a real man!"
i dont get it
You just stated the obvious. 1. The deep state has actively tried to destroy this country. Just like many EU countries and the UK did with mass immigration and attacking traditional values as criminal in nature.2. Russia has not done this.
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:45 pm to AtticusOSullivan
quote:Good Lord, every day we get more of this Putin knob-slobbering.
When compared to the bulk of the EU globalist cabal are they really so bad?
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:54 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Genuine question, what is your ethnic background
All of Europe, Lotta ancestors who came here a long time ago from Europe.
We are definitely related.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 12:00 am to MoistureintheOyster
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I have never been to Russia. I would bet that 98% of the posters responding have never been to Russia either.
I've been to Russia, twice. The people are some of the most welcoming you'll meet. The government on the other hand (Putin) only cares about himself and making his surrounding his own person Utopia.
They spend the vast majority of their budget on St. Petersburg and Moscow, it really is spotless there. The rest of the country though is mostly potholed roads and old soviet apartment complexes with central heat that offers individual apartments no control (i.e. you better enjoy a toasty 85 degrees in your apartment during winter months). Plumbing is pretty rare in houses (not the apartments).
With that said, back to Putin making it his own personal Utopia, there is no freedom of press. If you run anti-Putin stuff then your newspaper will get shut down and your writers jailed, that's why all of the Russian anti-putin newspapers our outside of Russia now (to avoid arrest). If you say the wrong thing you can also be jailed (my Taxi driver even warned me to watch what you say), and it's 100x worse now with the war.
It's pretty well documented that it's not just the press Putin likes to control, but also political rivals that have been routinely jailed or killed (Navalny, Nemtsov, etc). How do you think he gets 80% of the vote (I'll give the benefit of the doubt and won't say they outright rig it)? It's definitely not because 80%+ like Putin, he just gets rid of credible threats. He also doesn't stop at taking care of his internal rivals, he tried to assassinate the Ukrainian presidential candidate in 2004. Oh, did I mention he had his version of congress get rid of term limits? Guy wants to stay king.
As for why you can't trust him, in addition to above, gone back on his deals numerous times, from breaking ceasefires with Ukraine to blowing up the Wagner leaders plan after granting him "amnesty".
Will he directly attack the US? Of course not, but you'd be pretty damn naive if you think he won't meddle as much as he can with us (especially if he thinks we are weakening, which, quite frankly we are). The only reason he's offering a mineral deal is again because HE needs it. It's the same reason they are selling super cheap oil to China. If he was truly some benevolent leader who wanted to befriend the US, he would have been offering the same mineral deals during Trumps first presidency.
At the end of the day, he's a dictator, no more trustworthy than the Shahs of Iran or the fat guy in North Korea. That's why it's so laughable when people call Z a dictator, but don't say a peep about the real dictator.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:38 am to AtticusOSullivan
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Whens Ukraine going to allow elections?
IDK, but what does that have to do with whether Russia represents western values?
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:43 am to Penrod
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IDK, but what does that have to do with whether Russia represents western values?
When neither side represents western values it seems reasonable to shift the discussion to self-interest. Zelensky's corruption reaches Washington; Putin's assholery does not.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:47 am to AtticusOSullivan
I have watched tons of Russia docs ever since tucker went over there and did his interview. It’s actually a very normal country.. it’s a very Christian country and the people seem to love life there and the cities are more modern, clean and more beautiful than 90% of American cities
And there are fine arse women everywhere
And there are fine arse women everywhere
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