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re: LSU going to a vaccinate or test system for students
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:57 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:57 am to Mickey Goldmill
I asked you to explain.
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html
The CDC is using a digital signature which they created, its called fraud.
Next you are going to tell me the flu magically disappeared. Duhhhhhhhh, idiot. The test grabs all the flu infections as they are using influenza as part of the digital signature.
Now do you want to explain to me exactly how this all works?
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html
The CDC is using a digital signature which they created, its called fraud.
Next you are going to tell me the flu magically disappeared. Duhhhhhhhh, idiot. The test grabs all the flu infections as they are using influenza as part of the digital signature.
Now do you want to explain to me exactly how this all works?
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:59 am to BigJim
quote:
this seems reasonable.
Explain your thinking.
If you believe the vaccine works, then vaccinate and you are safe.
If you don't think it works, why are you advocating that people must take it or be subject to medical testing that has no medical reason behind it?
What is next? Testing all students for STD's when they get to campus?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:00 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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- They have no test to determine that you have covid-19, they have a test which using mix of the flu, common cold, etc. A positive does not mean you have covid.
Dear Jesus....
quote:LINK
Dr. Christopher Polage, an associate professor of pathology at Duke University, said his take on the CDC’s message is that, because flu season is on the horizon, a patient might come in with respiratory symptoms that could be attributed to either COVID or the flu. Laboratories need to start testing for both COVID and various flu viruses.
But the lab alert does not mean the CDC’s test cannot differentiate between COVID and the flu.
In fact, the CDC’s 2019-nCoV RT-PCR test was developed to look for the presence of a nucleic acid found only in the COVID virus, said Kelly Wroblewski, director of infectious disease programs at the Association of Public Health Laboratories.
“It is not remotely accurate that the CDC test doesn’t differentiate between flu and SARS-CoV-2. It doesn’t detect influenza. It only detects SARS-CoV-2,” said Wroblewski. “If flu and COVID are both circulating, you would be able to detect only SARS-CoV-2 and not flu.”
How the CDC’s 2019-nCoV RT-PCR test (or any other PCR test) works, Wroblewski said, is that primers, which are little bits of a genetic material, are used to identify specific viruses. In this case, the primer is built to identify a nucleic acid found only in the COVID virus.
If the COVID virus is present in the sample, the primer will attach to the virus’s nucleic acid and make many copies of it. A chemical in the test will then fluoresce, which the polymerase chain reaction, or PCR, machine will interpret as a positive result. If the COVID virus is not present, the primer will have nothing to attach to.
When asked about the CDC withdrawing its EUA request, FDA spokesperson Jim McKinney told us PCR tests are considered the “gold standard” for COVID diagnosis. He pointed us to data that illustrated the specificity and exclusivity of the CDC’s test. That data shows test results came back negative for samples that contained similar viruses, including different types of flu and other coronaviruses.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:00 pm to BigJim
30% False Positives
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:00 pm to BigJim
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Well yes, some of it is. He has to balance the concerns of his employees (professors) demanding a vaccine mandate with the concerns of students (and their parents) some of which don't want a mandate but almost all of which want to return to in-person classes and activities.
This seems like a good middle ground.
I actually agree. Its very much a no win situation for the new president who is already starting off on wary footing.
Given the nature of college kids every college is ripe for being labeled as the epicenter of any upcoming outbreak and the source of blame for any liberal professor who gets sick and ends up in the hospital.
Monthly testing is a lot but given the room that he sits in (a university campus comprised of professors who are very liberal) this is probably the absolute least he can do.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:01 pm to BigJim
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Public sector employees? That's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
There will be a lot of rich lawyers. Everyone thinks the waivers of liability are going to stop 10s of thousands of lawyers from pursuing it.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:01 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I said correct masks worn correctly, do work.
This is false and there are countless studies that prove it.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:01 pm to Adam Banks
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Where are you getting this?
Is this the theory that there was an aerosolized spike protein released originally?
If they are using the PCR test there that is a fraudulent test.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/why-cdc-quietly-abandoning-pcr-test-covid
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:03 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
quote:
I asked you to explain.
LINK
The CDC is using a digital signature which they created, its called fraud.
Next you are going to tell me the flu magically disappeared. Duhhhhhhhh, idiot. The test grabs all the flu infections as they are using influenza as part of the digital signature.
Now do you want to explain to me exactly how this all works?
Isnt this the test that was never able to actually be used?
As far as I know a large number of facilities came up with their own test and use their own.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:04 pm to Adam Banks
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Isnt this the test that was never able to actually be used?
As far as I know a large number of facilities came up with their own test and use their own.
Using what?
https://www.brighteon.com/37810944-72c7-422c-9712-82ce1fa5a51a
This might explain some. I don't think anyone is denying the spiked protein.
The CDC came up with bullshite, we all knew it was bullshite.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:05 pm to BigJim
quote:
but this seems reasonable.
You misspelled retarded.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:07 pm to BigJim
quote:
Well yes, some of it is. He has to balance the concerns of his employees (professors) demanding a vaccine mandate with the concerns of students (and their parents) some of which don't want a mandate but almost all of which want to return to in-person classes and activities.
This seems like a good middle ground.
I'm of the mind that if the only action you can take is one that is not really going to effect anything, then it's best to do nothing.
We already know that both the vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch and spread Covid, so only testing the unvaccinated makes no sense at all, unless the goal is to make being unvaccinated difficult or painful. Forcing everyone to get tested, while more useful, would be unmanageable and unwelcome...so it's not in the cards.
Do something that actually benefits the situation, or don't bother.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:07 pm to concrete_tiger
quote:Only applies to vaccine manufacturers.
waivers of liability
"Whereas pharmaceutical companies that manufacture EUA vaccines have been protected from liability related to injuries or deaths caused by experimental agents since the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act was enacted in 2005, companies and all other institutions or individuals who mandate experimental vaccines on any human being are not protected from liability."
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:19 pm to BigJim
quote:.
If you don't want to vaccinate for any reason, fine. But you will be routinely tested.
What if you have antibodies?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:21 pm to DingLeeBerry
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So what will they do for tailgaters, game goers, visitors, and other potential spreaders?
My thoughts are they will do nothing at all. The hypocrisy of it all is unreal.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:23 pm to tiger7166
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What if you have antibodies?
It's criminal that they would discount this critical piece of information.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:27 pm to Statestreet
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It's criminal that they would discount this critical piece of information.
Why should it matter, if the vaccine works than nobody has anything to fear. If the vaccine doesn't work than why are they trying to get people to take it?
Why does the school care? Its political science.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:29 pm to BigJim
Its not though.
Why wouldnt the vaccinated need a negative test?
They could still spread it to their old frail vaccinated professor that can still die from it.
Why wouldnt the vaccinated need a negative test?
They could still spread it to their old frail vaccinated professor that can still die from it.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:40 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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We already know that both the vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch and spread Covid
We have always known that.
What we don't know is the chance of catching and spreading for vaccinated versus unvaccinated. There is early data to suggest it is lower for vaccinated (thinking of the Israeli data), and there is some data to suggest they have the same chance of spreading (the Massachusetts data).
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:42 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
quote:
Why should it matter, if the vaccine works than nobody has anything to fear. If the vaccine doesn't work than why are they trying to get people to take it?
Because NO vaccine for ANY illness is 100% effective. These vaccines are very good, but there are still breakthrough cases. It isn't the binary outcome you make it out to be.
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