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re: LSU is now BLM U
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:10 am to GeauxTigerTM
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:10 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Not sure if you're aware of this, but back in the late 80's when I first started at USL there WAS a push to get the moniker changed. Not because it was offensive to Cajuns, but because...and I can hardly type this out because it's so stupid...when you reverse the letters in Ragin you get Nigar, which as you know...is not a fricking word. But if you tried hard enough, you could be offended by the sound of it if you felt the need to reads the name backwards for some unknown reason.
In the late 80's, people saw that push and laughed and walked away. Now? Some idiot might actually think it's a good call and necessary...
In this day and age, cancel culture would do something like this so I wouldn’t be surprised.
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:13 am to Ole War Skule
Interim Pres needs to get a new gig with BLM.
He has already done their bidding at LSU and effectively destroyed it.
He has already done their bidding at LSU and effectively destroyed it.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:15 am to LABred08
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Btw Ill respond as long as it relevant. I love making yall mad by expressing counter groupthink unbiased commentary. This board is a constant laugh riot to me!
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:19 am to doubleb
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Truth is most blacks arent out here killing each other, its not like its gone unnoticed but like anybody, those people control their lives, they want to take part in it, thats them. There have been many conversations with gangs members, gang leaders, communities. You can only do so much in that. There has been stop the violence rallies, meetings all of it but its positive so youre not gonna hear about it but its also simply not affective.
Here’s my major issue:
1) All black lives matter, whether killed by white cops or other blacks
2) Those two scenarios aren’t mutually exclusive. We should support groups that don’t undermine one of those scenarios for the sake of the other.
3) It can be very reasonably concluded the lack of a nuclear family unit in many black communities leads to higher than average crime rates
4) BLM explicitly mentions “disrupting the nuclear family” as part of their mission
5) BLM, therefore, is actually contrary to any goal to reduce black on black violence. Why in the hell would any reasonable black support that?
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 10:21 am
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:20 am to GeauxTigerTM
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ah...haven’t been a member there for 15 years, but I’d bet they are
yeah i last posted there in 2010. dull and boring. went to shite plus board was still stuck in 1998 formatting.
met lots of good people there. still friends to this day. that scroll off style was trash.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:23 am to LABred08
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I love making yall mad by expressing counter groupthink unbiased commentary.
The irony of using this term with what's going on makes me think you've never cracked an Orwell novel once.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:33 am to LABred08
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Point blank, there has to be accountability on all sides the difference is asking somebody whos salary I pay through paying taxes to protect me being black, just as they protect a fellow white person should be a given. It shouldnt be a crapshoot when I encounter them. If you arent under that oath, that uniform, that badge,I treat you just as unpredictably as someone of my own race cause you have no reason to care for me. Thats black on black crime, white on black, black on white. And its why that is irrelevant to a conversation about someone PAID to protect and serve. Its a conversation that should happen more but it is not the same and cannot be compared relatively with any honesty.
While I agree with you vehemently about paying taxes to afford equal protection and accountability when it comes to the police, there also must be a self reflection when it comes to risk assessment.
Statistically speaking (and we can argue how they are calculated), you have a higher risk of some sort of violent act when a member of law enforcement encounters a member of the African American community. Therefore, (we can also argue over whether its right or wrong) most members of law enforcement are a little more heightened by this risk when stopping an individual due to this knowledge.
This isn't to say white people are inoculated from this. There are shitty white people too.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:35 am to LABred08
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It shouldnt be a crapshoot when I encounter them.
It absolutely isn't, that's the issue. There is no epidemic. Black men are not being hunted by anyone, let alone police departments. This is all knowable.
The problem is you are allowing your feelings and emotions to outweigh your rational thoughts here. It should be enough to simply point out that few black men are killed each year than white by police. Accepting that knowable fact would automatically force you to realize that this entire house of cards is based on emotion rather than any statistical issue.
There's a reason this is the case, btw. We have, as a society, been trained over the past 10 years to assume racism whenever a white man kills a black man, regardless of whether or not one was a cop and the other was failing to comply with a lawful order. It's why each and every case is national news, and why when an officer kills a white suspect it barely registers. Americans don't know white victims of police brutality by name. We don't paint murals to them. We don't protest and we sure as shite don't riot. And as for white people specifically, we tend to look at those cases on a case by case basis and if the suspect was doing something that lead to his death, we acknowledge that and go on with our lives. We don't lionize criminals and turn them into martyrs.
The exact opposite seems to occur when the victim is black. It's automatically assumed race was the biggest factor, even if no evidence exists that it was. We ignore any and all facts which lead to the suspect's death being told it's not the time. Each one is considered a martyr and we shut down cities and we protest.
And all this happens as fewer black suspects are killed than whites each and every year... It's no wonder you feel the way you do. I get it, but it doesn't make your emotional response to this nonissue any more rational or correct.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 10:50 am
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:38 am to OchoDedos
That is when I will get up and walk out of the stadium and never watch or renew my tickets again. Sorry, I fought for my country and I will never disrespect it.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:41 am to Fat Bastard
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yeah i last posted there in 2010. dull and boring. went to shite plus board was still stuck in 1998 formatting. met lots of good people there. still friends to this day.
that scroll off style was trash.
Yeah...I don't want to trash Tim and Scott. I liked both of those guys and like you met lots of good people from there. I always kind of liked the format and took me a while to get used to this, but once you did it was obviously better.
As for the board, I was part of the first group that did sign up for the pay side but always felt that was not the way to go. For years everyone there had complained about the incestuous nature of BAMA's pay board (I forget what it was/is called) and then decided that was the way to go with TR. Never made sense to me. I was always on board with expanding and opening up via advertising like they did so successfully here. Keeping it pay was always going to keep it very small...
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:42 am to LABred08
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I never once said defund the police.
This is one of the mottos of black lives matter. Maybe more reason to distance oneself (like a university) from the BLM movement.
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Do they need the absurd amounts of finances they get, no but to majorly or totally defund the police is counterproductive.
Wrong. They need more. Police, on average, get about 4 hours of training....PER YEAR!!! Not per week, or per month. Per year. And more funding doesn't mean more guns. It means more training. Ask any police chief out there what he needs more of, and it's training. And the accidental shootings or flat out incompetence some police show, could be solved by more training. Defund the police is counterintuitive to your goals.
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I said if you have a prejudice of fear against anybody, you shouldnt protect anyone, because it will cause you to protect yourself over others even in situations that are not dire.
Again, something training would solve. If you train 10 hours per week, on how to handle a tough situation, you can learn to deescalate more approriately. 99% of a cops entire career doesn't involve shootings. Majority if their days are rather peaceful and calm. So you have a cop, who has only trained 4 hours/year. The same cop, doesn't have any big immediate dangers he's dealing with daily. And then you get a situation where you have to deal with a person who is agitated, angry, and may or may not have a gun. That cop, is also a person, and if you are not used to dealing with fear (via training) then you won't make the best decisions. Training saves lives.
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Point blank, there has to be accountability on all sides the difference is asking somebody whos salary I pay through paying taxes to protect me being black, just as they protect a fellow white person should be a given.
And overwhelming majority do. However, you can't ignore the statistical probability that black people committing crimes, resisting arrest, is much higher than other ethnicity's. It's an inconvenient fact, but a fact nonetheless.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 10:46 am
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:46 am to Ole War Skule
When will you scholars realize that saying “BLM” does not equal direct cahoots with the actual BLM organization?
I admittedly skimmed but is there a link to the BLM website? Are actual donations to BLM organization being made? Or are they just saying BLM?
I admittedly skimmed but is there a link to the BLM website? Are actual donations to BLM organization being made? Or are they just saying BLM?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:46 am to BugAC
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And then you get a situation where you have to deal with a person who is agitated, angry, and may or may not have a gun
A lot of them are tweaking out on drugs too. That was the key factor in George Floyd's arrest turning violent.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:48 am to S
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When will you scholars realize that saying “BLM” does not equal direct cahoots with the actual BLM organization?
When will you realize that maybe you should rename your organization if it's named after a false pretense?
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I admittedly skimmed but is there a link to the BLM website?
I believe one was posted with the BLM mission statement.
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Are actual donations to BLM organization being made?
Yes. Many celebrities have donated. In fact, there was news a few weeks back about millions being donated to BLM, and it was, in turn, being contributed to Democrat politicians.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:49 am to Breesus
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Who? Dorne? Is she a BLM advisor?
The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation is funded through Thousand Currents, a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt non-profit organization.
Susan Rosenberg, a former member of the Weather Underground leftist terrorist organization, is currently a member of the Thousand Currents board of directors.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:52 am to BugAC
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Yes. Many celebrities have donated.
Specific to LSU
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believe one was posted with the BLM mission statement
Link?
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When will you realize that maybe you should rename your organization if it's named after a false pretense?
I don’t know? I’ve posted on multiple boards here that the organization is sketchy and everyday people shouldn’t donate.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 10:55 am to BugAC
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In fact, there was news a few weeks back about millions being donated to BLM, and it was, in turn, being contributed to Democrat politicians.
BLM's website uses a payment processor called ActBlue to accept donations. ActBlue's fine print states that any donations that are unclaimed for 60 days can be given to whichever political campaign they want to fund.
I guarantee you that this is being used by corporations and labor unions to illegally donate to Democrat political campaigns. BLM is a money laundering scheme.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:00 am to S
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When will you scholars realize that saying “BLM” does not equal direct cahoots with the actual BLM organization?
I admittedly skimmed but is there a link to the BLM website? Are actual donations to BLM organization being made? Or are they just saying BLM?
They are just saying BLM, and these sensitive snowflakes don't have the ability to separate a slogan from the organization.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:02 am to Trevaylin
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discontinuing donations, skipping football games, sending kids to other colleges will have no influence on LSU leadership. they are state funded and any participation downers will occur on somebody else shift
disrupting campus activities with sit-ins , access blocking , and cheer leading for all lives matter will have an impact.
question now for Gallagher is will he have a similar week of focus group activity for whites, spanish, vietnamize , South American, arab etc. Gallagher is an unrepentant racist if he does not treat all lives the same
Good post, Trevaylin. My only disagreement is that I think that LSU's administration is VERY sensitive to enrollment numbers. Remember that state funding has declined, so it represents a much smaller share of LSU revenues than it once did. Enrollment is now a huge driver in the administration's thinking, and a reduction in the number of students attending LSU could have a big impact, especially if the drop-off in enrollment starts to look like that experienced by the University of Missouri following their BLM/SJW fiasco. But it is hard for people who have been loyal to LSU for years to send their children elsewhere, so I don't expect that kind of enrollment decline. But if there was to be a significant drop-off in student numbers it would get the administration's attention, particularly if those opting out of LSU made it clear that they were doing so because of the LSU administration's radical worldview and its imposition on the university.
I do agree with you that donors withholding their donations would not have an immediate effect, but if enough donors withheld donations and made it clear why they were doing so it might be enough of a stick to hit the LSU administration over the head with it.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 11:04 am to BugAC
And no matter the statistics, that prejudice shouldnt exist. I never said all blacks are innocent but lets take it all the way back to what set this off, what was Trayvon Martin doing that was illegal for him to even be questioned, what did he do do deserve to be shot and killed. Sandra Bland, what did she do to be murdered in jail? What did Breona Taylor do being murdered in her bed?
It doesnt have to be that we are hunted, can I just get the same consideration that I just might not be a low life, cause if that was cross more folks minds, we wouldnt have the problem. Its good and bad people of every race, it should shameful to be prejudiced to assume every one is and it should not be tolerated ESPECIALLY in civil service
It doesnt have to be that we are hunted, can I just get the same consideration that I just might not be a low life, cause if that was cross more folks minds, we wouldnt have the problem. Its good and bad people of every race, it should shameful to be prejudiced to assume every one is and it should not be tolerated ESPECIALLY in civil service
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