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Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62957 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:09 pm to
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On this issue, kinda. But many who voted for it are looking at the larger picture.
Well, the bigger picture is if the Congress can require states to use ID, any future Congress can’t exclude IDs from being used (or worse).

But, hey, we can trust democrats to do the right thing, amiright?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Taxation has never been seen as a governmetn power exclusive to states or the feds. It's always been an example of our duel sovereign federal system with concurrent/overlapping powers, like the police power.


So not every federal action on states is erosion of states rights.

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I already told you it's illegal


Are ya hard of hearing boy? I asked you, SLOWFLOWPRO, IN YOUR OPINION, do you believe a state should allow illegals to vote in federal elections? I'm going to keep asking this until YOU answer it. You don't get to avoid giving an opinion because you are afraid of having to defend your personal opinion.

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There is not a system that can prevent fraud, of any sort, at 100%. Fraudsters always have the advantage b/c they're willing to be dishonest.


Yes, but even you can fathom the fact that if there was a federal law, requiring voter ID, that a leftist county or state is now subject to oversight by the feds, thus a forced reduction of voter fraud via threat of federal charges if those states/counties/polls do not adhere by those election guidelines.

BTW, you won't answer any of these truthfully because everyone knows what you want. Your TDS (yes you have TDS) doesn't allow rationality to seep in. You are against a federal voter id laws because doing so would mean democrats will lose and Trump will win. And you support Democrats right now, because they also hate trump.The enemy of your enemy is your friend. That's really all it boils down to.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:10 pm to
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But, hey, we can trust democrats to do the right thing, amiright?


You're going to get the THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY silliness
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:12 pm to
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You're going to get the THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY silliness


See gerrymandering for more details.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:13 pm to
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So not every federal action on states is erosion of states rights.


I already addressed that

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No. This is a particular area where states exert dominion.


You brought up taxation, which is not an area where states exert dominion as it's a function of both of our dual sovereigns, as the post you just quoted explained fully.

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Yes, but even you can fathom the fact that if there was a federal law, requiring voter ID, that a leftist county or state is now subject to oversight by the feds, thus a forced reduction of voter fraud via threat of federal charges if those states/counties/polls do not adhere by those election guidelines.

Again, you're just giving excuses as to why being a hypocrite RINO is OK.

Also, you missed the point about how your question was bad.

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BTW, you won't answer any of these truthfully

I have. All of them. You just don't like the answers b/c you either ignored what I said (see the dominion comments above) or didn't like me pointing out your question was bad/dishonest (Hopefully the urging above makes you think about it).

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ou are against a federal voter id laws because doing so would mean democrats will lose and Trump will win. A

Now you're just saying retarded things
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33073 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:14 pm to
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Massie the only republican to vote against the SAVE Act
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57428 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:15 pm to
Do you believe a state should allow illegals to vote in federal elections?

Why do you keep avoiding this question?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41352 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:16 pm to
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Criminals do have rights. Some of our amendments in the BOR specifically address those rights Why do you hate American values and the principles of our founders?


Our founders didn’t defend traitorous people abusing the constitution to advance their leftist causes. They wouldnt be defending this nonsense like you do. The would make amendments to fix the inherent flaws.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Do you believe a state should allow illegals to vote in federal elections?

No states legally allow illegals to vote in any such elections.

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Why do you keep avoiding this question?

I keep answering it. You just don't like the responses and keep asking it again. .

It's a bad question. I keep showing you why.

Like they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
18765 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:17 pm to
What the f$#@ is wrong with this guy?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:18 pm to
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They wouldnt be defending this nonsense like you do. The would make amendments to fix the inherent flaws.

That sounds like a much better plan than the SAVE Act
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79239 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:18 pm to
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Literally the reasoning of RINOs who abandon principle for convenience or popularity.
Fine.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
129081 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:20 pm to
There's really no defending this
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16473 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:22 pm to
Put it on a single issue bill and we will see how he votes.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110362 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:23 pm to
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Fun Bunch


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:23 pm to
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See gerrymandering for more details.


The modern push for gerrymandering came by the right, not the left.

It was a brilliant strategy around the 2010 census. I forget the guy but he was a nobody who realized it was a lot cheaper to win state-level seats and by doing that in a Census year, you could "win" elections by shifting votes via changing districts via state edict. One of the best bangs for the buck ever in political history.

It's just that the left caught up and used certain cases won by right-adjacent plaintiffs to do it themselves. You can only do a plan like that once
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31904 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:25 pm to
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SlowEverythingisirrelvantexceptmyopinionPro putting in work!
Ignore the slow troll and carry on with the discussion.

The moment I see his name; I scroll past his dialog.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41352 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:26 pm to
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That sounds like a much better plan than the SAVE Act


The liberals and LIBRINOS, and the RINOS have too much power to get this accomplished today. People like you enable the destruction of our nation.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41352 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:28 pm to
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Ignore the slow troll and carry on with the discussion. The moment I see his name; I scroll past his dialog.


Smart.

As soon as you corner him, he runs away.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:29 pm to
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The liberals and LIBRINOS, and the RINOS have too much power to get this accomplished today.


Well tough titty, then.

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People like you enable the destruction of our nation.

Your emotional-irrational comments are noted as such.
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