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Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:38 am to
Posted by Arkaea79
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:38 am to
How about neither?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:38 am to
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It’s obvious the cartels own sheinbaum.
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It's not obvious. It's possible
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Mexico is just coming off a long, bloody civil war with the cartels that they lost.
A Jew was elected President in a 90% catholic country.....
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It’s obvious the cartels own sheinbaum.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:39 am to
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A Jew was elected President in a 90% catholic country.....

From the Leftist party. Are you trying to claim leftists care about religion? Of course they don't. They care about leftism.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:41 am to
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Sheinbaum


Baum Witz Berg Stein
Every single fricking time
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:41 am to
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How about neither?



You dont have that choice, drugs are plentiful and its not your body.

Your kids and grandkids will be their own person.

Any halfway intelligent person would want cleaner options than the current synthetic markets.

As posted above, many street drugs with Fentanyl (42%) contain enough to kill some people.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
68053 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:42 am to
SFP- child sex trafficking and now terrorist supporter


I am shocked
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:44 am to
I am not shocked at your dishonesty
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7000 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:48 am to
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I wouldnt support their use of alcohol, much less Fentanyl.

But I would much rather then get clean stuff than black market Fentanyl, as would you and yours.

Wouldnt you?

I don't want any kind of it available. Thinking that "clean" matters, when drug user just push for the next strongest high, is naive. Especially when getting the "dirty" kind will be cheaper than the "clean" version. There will be no legal way to really stop it once Pandora's box is fully opened.

"Clean" version has just a high probability of leading to life ruin, as anything. We aren't talking about something people will be able to live normal lives once hooked. This isn't a Coffee addiction.

This won't be like having a cold beer with your kid after a long day working on the farm. One can teach a child about how to "control Alcohol, and not letting it control you" like my father did with my siblings and I. Once someone gets that first taste of fet or heroin, clean or not, they will lose that ability to be able to control it.

We need to return to better moral upbringings in this nation, not constantly give up.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9196 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:00 am to
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You don’t think the Mexican cartels are running military operations and killing our citizens on US soil?


Do they have the ability to do so...probably so yea..But I have no idea what you are talking about as far as current cartel military operations killing our citizens on US soil. Do you have some link to some stories about these operations that are killing US citizens on US soil?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:01 am to
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don't want any kind of it available.


Your premise is impossible. We will always have a demand for drugs and market, legal or illegal.

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need to return to better moral upbringings in this nation, not constantly give up


Morality is individual. You can't control everyone and it's puritan of you to think you can.

Take care of yourself, let others fail.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 11:02 am
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27379 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:04 am to
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It's clear she's either scared or has been bought by the cartels.
From the "I'm not shocked" file it seems that you and your entire family dying a very violent death seems to have a influence one's decision making process.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:11 am to
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But I have no idea what you are talking about as far as current cartel military operations killing our citizens on US soil. Do you have some link to some stories about these operations that are killing US citizens on US soil?


He completely pivoted when I responded and argued their drug-running tunnels were the same thing.

They're going to try to link anything related to illegal immigration or drug running in the US to "the cartels", even if's a secondary, tertiary, or beyond effect of actual cartel decision-making. Like I saw yesterday, some were arguing "the cartels" were taking over hotels when that was a Venezuelan gang not related to Mexican cartels at all.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7000 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:16 am to
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Morality is individual. You can't control everyone and it's puritan of you to think you can.
Leaning more puritan than anarchist, isnt bad for a stable society.

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Take care of yourself, let others fail.

That's a wonderful bumber sticker for a healthy society.

Thinking that once the failures outnumber the rest will allow you to take care of yourself safely is naive. I'm sure the Californians bitching about how bad it's gotten there had this same mentality 30-50 yrs ago.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:31 am to
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Leaning more puritan than anarchist, isnt bad for a stable society.


That will be expensive and you'll lose. Good luck.

We were founded on the desire to save people from themselves, we were founded on opportunity.

People love drugs, even moral people. It's innate
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7000 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:39 am to
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That will be expensive and you'll lose. Good luck.

We were founded on the desire to save people from themselves, we were founded on opportunity.

People love drugs, even moral people. It's innate

Our society was founded on the morality you dismiss. That desire and opportunity you speak of were built within Christian moral guardrails. That's what allowed it be successful. Otherwise this nation would not exist as it does.

Overtime that has been widdled away under the "libertarian anarchy" belief, and we are seeing where that has gotten us.

Repairing our moral foundation wouldnt be expensive. Just takes the willingness to do. You don't, which is your prerogative, but acting like its best for a healthy society is wrong. Unless your want for the future is that destruction, of course.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23712 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:53 pm to
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Do you have some link to some stories about these operations that are killing US citizens on US soil?


You don’t think the cartels are trafficking fentanyl across the border, killing US citizens on US soil?

Don’t be like SFP, simple minded
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:54 pm to
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You don’t think the cartels are trafficking fentanyl across the border, killing US citizens on US soil?



Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23712 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:54 pm to
Congrats groomer, it appears you learned a new word today. Simple Simon
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 12:56 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471822 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:57 pm to
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Congrats groomer, it appears you learned a new word today. Simple Simon


When SFP is proven right, the ad homs flow
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Our society was founded on the morality you dismiss


Morality is individual, not collective.
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