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re: MIC fixin' to eat
Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:51 pm to Seldom Seen
Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:51 pm to Seldom Seen
I thought you were a big Trump guy, what happened?
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:03 pm to Seldom Seen
Is the current budget not already something like $890 billion?
Cut out a trillion or two in overall DOGE cuts and that's a modest increase that is more than offset by savings. I have no problem with big military budgets, my problem is the stuff they spend money on and hide. Give me transparency and I'm ok with it.
At the exact same time, I acknowledge that our defense costs can easily be lowered and the military made more efficient anlt the same time of there was some rational streamlining. That is the option I would prefer.
Cut out a trillion or two in overall DOGE cuts and that's a modest increase that is more than offset by savings. I have no problem with big military budgets, my problem is the stuff they spend money on and hide. Give me transparency and I'm ok with it.
At the exact same time, I acknowledge that our defense costs can easily be lowered and the military made more efficient anlt the same time of there was some rational streamlining. That is the option I would prefer.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:12 pm to Seldom Seen
Well, he still cut trillions in spending with DOGE. We have terrorist groups the last administration and Deep State have been sending millions of millions of dollars too weekly, billions over all, and they've been allowed to plot attacks on Israel and the U.S. with that money... and weapons we've given them. These same pricks have vowed to attack the U.S. and kill 50K to 60K Americans. There is also, reportedly, an Iranian small nuke that has crossed the border into the U.S. that they have no idea where it is. Also under the last administration, the Ukrainian dictator U.S. Deep State puppet they sent well over a 100 billion dollars to and some of our most advanced weapons, he has apparently sold military grade weapons to Mexican drug cartels to use against us when the time comes.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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quote:
Ron Paul is an old tard
Hes standing between you and all those Donny Stimmies..
He's not standing between shite. He is powerless. All he is now, is an old man yelling at clouds and for kids to get off his lawn.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:21 pm to Bard
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I thought DOGE was going to go balls deep on DoD before they did something like this?
Watch Elon's last interview on Rogan. He says, he was basically told, you go too far with DOGE (like digging into the Pentagon and military, ICs etc.), they WILL kill you. He'll be dead.
He basically implied that he had big ideas of going to that extreme but quickly learned there is only so far they can go before they will quite literally be murdered.
So, that probably has something to do with it.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:23 pm to Seldom Seen
I would have liked to take the same approach as SS… by eliminating waste fraud and abuse, more of the budgeted dollars will actually be going to defense and production.
Somewhat in parallel, im curious how much of this planned spending is in new drone manufacturing where we do need significant investments to get supply chain and production going at scale domestically. Will see i guess.
Somewhat in parallel, im curious how much of this planned spending is in new drone manufacturing where we do need significant investments to get supply chain and production going at scale domestically. Will see i guess.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:24 pm to The Egg
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the board should be against the expansion of the MIC no? many on here supposedly loathe the complex and say we spend/waste way too much already, seems like putting 1T towards it is going backwards
There is a LOT of turmoil in the world right now, with our fingerprints on it--thanks to the last few years... if not decades. But Trump has 4 years. If by the end of four years we're not involved in less war, with less spending on war, then I will be disappointed in that one aspect of his second term. I can guarantee you, we would only be seeing more war if Kamala had been elected.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:25 pm to TigerAxeOK
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I have no problem with big military budgets, my problem is the stuff they spend money on and hide. Give me transparency and I'm ok with it.
This.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Now you are an EXPERT on the military and what we as a country need to do. Does your "expertise" know ANY bounds??
RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:31 pm to RollTide4547
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Now you are an EXPERT on the military
No, but I do remember Trump saying the military needed to be cut by 50% two months ago,
Of course you dont.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Did he say the military or Department of Defense? I also don't recall 50%. Do recall talk of pentagon cuts of 50 Billion (8%) for 5 years, which would total 40%.
Trump saying the military needed to be cut by 50% two months ago,
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:43 pm to BigPerm30
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I’m assuming Bibi wants us to blow up Iran next
You may rest well assured that this is exactly what Bibi wants the USA to do.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:48 pm to TankBoys32
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I thought you were a big Trump guy, what happened?
I'm still a big Trump guy I'm just not big on his tariffs. I was against his tariffs in his first term too so I haven't changed at all.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:52 pm to Jjdoc
quote:And we don't have that at current spending levels, right? Only with a trillion will we get there!
I have zero issue with having the strongest and largest military in the world.
Its one of the few things the constituion provides for
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:58 pm to Seldom Seen
Word, I feel that!
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:16 pm to Seldom Seen
RE: Ron Paul - Politicians are the very thing that has bankrupted us.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:21 pm to Seldom Seen
Good. Defense spending is the only major expense the nation should have. We need to be ready for China. Now was not the time to start cutting its budget
1T is still less than we spend on interest by a good chunk.
1T is still less than we spend on interest by a good chunk.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:22 pm to Big Scrub TX
Part of the issue is that we keep getting fricked on Chinese IP theft. They basically stole all of our trillion dollar fighter jet technology. We need to invest substantially more in protecting our IP
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:22 pm to roadGator
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SFP said it better
PDF peen puffer
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:23 pm to The Egg
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the board should be against the expansion of the MIC no?
Don't get the resident tards like SDV and Momentoftruth confused with "the board"
Just see MoT's post on the first page and all of SDV's in this thread for reference when it comes to the level of "deep thought" you're dealing with there
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 4:25 pm
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