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re: Mike Pence: Muslim Ban Unconstitutional and Offensive.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:01 am to public_enemy
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:01 am to public_enemy
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:02 am to GEAUXmedic
You don't have to call it a Muslim ban. You make it a Syria ban or an Iraq ban, etc. They just happen to be Muslims.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:03 am to TheFolker
Why not an Islamic ban?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:03 am to Hooligan's Ghost
Considering the Muslims fought against the very religion that the founders believed during the Crusades, I would say yes. The better question is did the founders believe that they would immigrate here, would they have still included freedom of all religions in the Bill of Rights or would they have placed some restrictions in it. Interesting topic for sure
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 6:04 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:03 am to thelawnwranglers
According to The Hill, Gloria Steinem said she would join her.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:03 am to russellvillehog
Yeah, it's entirely constitutional...I'll add the POTUS should be able to...someone should have the authority to close the borders during a catastrophic event
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 6:04 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:04 am to russellvillehog
The Baker gave the answer above. This isn't a ban on Muslims coming into the country, it's a ban from people coming in from certain areas of the world.
A Canadian Muslim can come into the country. A Christian from Syria cannot.
A Canadian Muslim can come into the country. A Christian from Syria cannot.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:05 am to TheFolker
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You don't have to call it a Muslim ban. You make it a Syria ban or an Iraq ban, etc. They just happen to be Muslims.
But not a Saudi Arabia ban. He won't do that.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:06 am to The Baker
quote:Carter did it and later won a Nobel. Nothing wrong with Trump doing this.
Which is why we're suspending immigration from certain terror states not a religion.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:06 am to GEAUXmedic
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Why not an Islamic ban?
Just to avoid the inevitable court challenges and countless injunctions slowing down implementation. But I'm sure those would occur regardless.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:06 am to public_enemy
I thought that was my question, more or less...
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:06 am to thelawnwranglers
Nothing is wrong with what he has proposed. I am against banning all Muslims. I am also not an idiot and knew he never meant this seriously. I always understood he meant what his current proposal is.
The fact of the matter is all radical Islamic terrorists are Muslim. Muslims are concentrated in a certain area of the world. Isis and other terror organizations are as well. Stopping immigration from this area would basically be banning Muslims but it sounds better when you say terror torn regions.
Yes there are other religions in this area but let's be honest. Muslims who are so radical to kill in the name of Allah also believe in taquiya. They can lie to further thier agenda in thier minds. So banning immigration from this area was always the right thing. Regardless of religion. Trump isn't PC and he is a negotiator and started his first bid yuge.
Did he mean all Muslims from fricking anywhere? Hell no. That doesn't make sense. Sometimes people are stupid and cannot think beyond the first step.
The fact of the matter is all radical Islamic terrorists are Muslim. Muslims are concentrated in a certain area of the world. Isis and other terror organizations are as well. Stopping immigration from this area would basically be banning Muslims but it sounds better when you say terror torn regions.
Yes there are other religions in this area but let's be honest. Muslims who are so radical to kill in the name of Allah also believe in taquiya. They can lie to further thier agenda in thier minds. So banning immigration from this area was always the right thing. Regardless of religion. Trump isn't PC and he is a negotiator and started his first bid yuge.
Did he mean all Muslims from fricking anywhere? Hell no. That doesn't make sense. Sometimes people are stupid and cannot think beyond the first step.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 6:09 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:06 am to Hooligan's Ghost
You aren't wrong, sorry, just the history teacher part coming out in me.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:11 am to GEAUXmedic
Which is why it's not a blanket ban (although, I disagree with him...the law clearly allows it).
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:27 am to public_enemy
I'm not talking about the japs. They weren't banned in the 60s and 70s. I am talking about other groups and not necessarily being banned. Trump is not going to ban "Muslims" or any group based on religion. It won't hold up. I know it and you all know it . Now banning people suspected of isis or related to Isis is a different story.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 6:30 am
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:28 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Because it's the truth?
It isn't offensive or unconstitutional.
Non citizens do NOT share the rights of citizens.
We do not have to allow a single immigrant to come to the US.
The Muslim Religion is the Motherlode of bad ideas.
No rational person can support allowing their entry.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:30 am to Loserman
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It isn't offensive or unconstitutional. Non citizens do NOT share the rights of citizens. We do not have to allow a single immigrant to come to the US. The Muslim Religion is the Motherlode of bad ideas. No rational person can support allowing their entry.
So banning Muslims who are citizens is constitutional?
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:38 am to GEAUXmedic
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@crack_bass @GovPenceIN He's saying US citizens who are Muslim and out of the country can't re-enter. That is clearly unconstitutional.
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@crack_bass @GovPenceIN He's saying US citizens who are Muslim and out of the country can't re-enter. That is clearly unconstitutional.
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:38 am to LSUTANGERINE
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So banning Muslims who are citizens is constitutional?
Of course not and no one is proposing that.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:39 am to LSUTANGERINE
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We've done a lot of things in the past, as recently as the 1960s and early 70s, to other groups that have been deemed unconstitutional and wrong
I agree with you 100%!! Protesting soldiers and spitting on them when returning from war is no way to treat them and very disrespectful. Even back then the liberals were TP'sOS!! You were around back then, yes? Probably so.
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