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Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:18 pm to
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:18 pm to
We are xennials. Not Millennials.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:19 pm to
We’re all going to pay for it. Whether you like it or not.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:20 pm to
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We’re all going to pay for it. Whether you like it or not.




Sorry , you should man up and pay for your debt.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56597 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:21 pm to
I would be very surprised if 808 had any debt.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:22 pm to
I have zero college debt. I had $10k when I got my masters.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62492 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:25 pm to
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You are as staunchly unreasonable as the Bernie Bros.

No one said to pay it off, but something needs to be done or you will alienate an entire generation because you are completely unreasonable.

I would rather find a way to fix it now before those individuals become entrenched in the pinko mentality.



The problem is that the "entire generation" isn't willing to eliminate the access to easy money that's causing the severe price increases. They want to to have their cake and eat it too.

It's like the guy who complained about the housing market. He said it was impossible to find cheap starter homes unless they weren't in a popular area.

As a whole, the group has no concept of basic economic principles and are unwilling to make choices that benefit them tomorrow at the expense of today. Obviously, this doesn't apply to all millenials. But, the damage has been done. As a whole, they have been brainwashed to think that they are victims and have a tougher road than anyone before them.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:27 pm to
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I have zero college debt. I had $10k when I got my masters.


I had zero debt when I graduated because I worked full time and paid my way.

It took me 7 years to get my degree , sometimes I only had enough cash to pay for two classes in a semester.

I do not owe these people anything. THEY chose to sign those contracts , they should have worked and paid their way. They wanted to party and I have to pay for that ?

frick that

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:30 pm to
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I had zero debt when I graduated because I worked full time and paid my way.


Yeah. I lived at home and had a scholarship that covered tuition.

I agree with your stance. But a simple ending of government guaranteed loans will never happen by itself. You’re kicking the can.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:34 pm to
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If graduate success was tied to the budgets of a university, they'd be muuuuuuch more discerning in what they teach

I like it.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:34 pm to
I'm not kicking anything , there shouldn't be a can.

Tell them to frick off , you don't cave to freeloaders.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62492 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:35 pm to
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I've advocated for a system of university-sponsored cost in exchange for X% of income over Y years


What you are really trying to say is that you want universities to hold the paper on the loan and thus have some risk involved.

You really don't need that. You just need any party that holds to the paper to have risk involved. That's where the problem lies. These loans are guaranteed.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:38 pm to
We’ve already caved. You’re in denial.

When you can take out $200k in loans and pay based on your income, the show is already over.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19226 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:41 pm to
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the lack of starter homes


Milennials idea of a starter home is north of $200k and 2500 heated sqft. Outside of the largest metro areas, you would have to be blind not to find a starter home under $150k. Even in Philly there were fixer-uppers in the $80k range. Not North Philly slums but areas within walking distance of craft brew pubs, art bars, and a few decent coffee and pizza joints. Milennials simply have no idea on how to recognize real potential and invest in something that doesn't bring immediate gratification.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:41 pm to
It would help to have the schools have risk. You’re not getting on the hook for $200k for a student with a gender theory degree if you’re the university.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:42 pm to
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93and99

Are you just going to ignore the issue and allow the dems to lock on to that HUGE population of voters for the next 20 year's?

That's your play?

***I firmly believe that people should pay for loans they signed up for. But they're not going to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127180 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:43 pm to
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Milennials idea of a starter home is north of $200k and 2500 heated sqft.


This is a good point. Average new home size in 1973 was 1663 s.f.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62492 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:44 pm to
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It would help to have the schools have risk. You’re not getting on the hook for $200k for a student with a gender theory degree if you’re the university.



If the banks have risk, this isn't a thing. And, you don't have to create this monstrosity of system, filled with bureaucratic rules, to work. If you let simply market forces drive the behavior, it will just work.
Posted by MI LSU
NYC
Member since Oct 2009
1136 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:44 pm to
I can live with a hit to my--and this is important: other people in the 1%'s--pocketbook if it means a broad swathe of less fortunate people don't have to worry about going to the fricking doctor, or find that their rich counterparts have once again found more loopholes/cons to further increase their wealth. I work in corporate America in NY. I promise that myself and all the other skyscraper people I work with in the city aren't doing anything additive to this world. We're good at generating profits for our boards. That's not anything to be proud of, so the absolute LEAST we should all do is shoulder some burden. In reality, the richest people just have the richest accountants who find ways to evade taxes. You lot seem to find this a good thing. I find it repulsive. Bernie is a check against that.
Greed is fricking gross. Full stop.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62492 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:46 pm to
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Milennials idea of a starter home is north of $200k and 2500 heated sqft.


They also like the idea of a much smaller, older home where property values are through the roof.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56597 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:46 pm to
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Greed is fricking gross


Why, then, are you making an ostensibly obscene amount of money in the service of your Manhattan overlords?
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