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Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
180881 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:08 pm to
Got it. Sent a text to someone about it and responded to you.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 3:19 pm to
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We haven’t had rates this high for 20+ years and the paper value of those properties is a LOT fricking higher than it was then.


The rates aren't unreasonable, though they are higher than they've been for the past 20 years like you said. But they've been historically low for the past 20 years.

We can't have normal rates with abnormally high home prices though. Gotta pick one or the other or it all falls apart.


This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted by DoctorO
BTR
Member since Jun 2010
292 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 3:22 pm to
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I’m not looking forward to when the RE market completely locks up. I'm stocking up on cash in anticipation. Stout, I kind of want to email you about a property I saw to get your thoughts. It is a project house and I think I'm missing something
Posted by DoctorO
BTR
Member since Jun 2010
292 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 3:28 pm to
I remember back in ‘78 we were happy to get 9.15%.

The chickens are coming back home to roost again.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
12644 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 3:28 pm to
bought an older house in a golf course community in 2018 when rates were kinda high, which made the price tag on the house come down a good bit. we bought with higher rates and refinanced twice.......so now, even with less than desirable seller market values, we're still around +$200K from purchase and have a 2.5% rate. thank god we were able to do that prior to this collapse.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6200 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 3:33 pm to
If you need someone to pay to hunt this land in Oklahoma I know a few guys
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6200 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 3:37 pm to
the market right now is just first time homebuyers, 98% of the loans I working are first timers. I keep waiting on homevalues to start coming down but they just haven't yet. If the economy goes south on a massive scale and we see a huge rise in defaults that should drive prices down. That's also not happening
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4642 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 3:39 pm to
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When do yall think the stock market crashes?


I don't know about a "crash" but I think we hit a very definite recession not long after consumers hit the credit wall.


We're already in a recession.

Remodeling industry is slowing way down. House flippers gotta be struggling.
New construction can't be good.

Commercial real estate is a disaster. So, great timing on that decision against Trump New York.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2941 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 4:07 pm to
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We may just be feeling the start of the Biden spending


biden has been adding 2.5T annually since he took office compared to Trumps 1.2T up until covid


2008...$10,025
2009...$11,910
2010...$13,562
2011...$14,790
2012...$16,066
2013...$16,738
2014...$17,824
2015...$18,151
2016...$19,573
2017...$20,245...Congress raised the debt ceiling
2018...$21,516...Trump tax cuts
2019...$22,719

2020...$26,945...COVID-19 and recession

2021...$28,428...American Rescue Plan Act
2022...$30,928...Inflation Reduction Act
2023...$33,167
2024...$34,280+...And Counting....
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6200 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 4:09 pm to
I live in baton rouge, we have quite a few big builders just humming in town and selling about as fast as they get them built. I had a 15 home development sell out with houses starting at 400k right down the road from me last year
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4642 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 4:17 pm to
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I live in baton rouge, we have quite a few big builders just humming in town and selling about as fast as they get them built. I had a 15 home development sell out with houses starting at 400k right down the road from me last year


Housing market isnt dead. But slow.
I imagine that budgets are tight for most DIY flippers.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 4:19 pm to
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I keep hoping this plummets undeveloped rural land. I want to buy some more land. I've seen no evidence of it yet. The tracts aren't selling, but the prices haven't moved.


I just really dont see that happening. The owners of rural land id assume have much deeper pockets. I could be wrong though. I keep my eye on the housing marker more than land market
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103603 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 4:20 pm to
Mate you should invest in some lower income apartment complexes
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6200 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 4:20 pm to
i have a good friend thats a flipper and the market is horrible because of home prices right now.
Posted by minister of truth
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Member since May 2022
1882 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 5:51 pm to
I have family in BR & I’m amazed that they’re still selling ridiculously priced homes as fast as they are! Who is making the amount of money in BR to buy these homes? And why?
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